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Old 07-06-20, 03:08 PM
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Well, it's not completely together yet. I've had it set up as a 2x5, and a 3x7. The bike rides very nicely. The wire-bead 27x1 1/4 Continental Ultrasports are a smooth-riding low-cost tire.
I'm using Gatorskin 700cx28mm. I have no complaints!
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Old 07-06-20, 03:34 PM
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ascherer , I have some SunTour thumbshifters if you’re interested. I’ve had them on several upright bar builds, most recently a Raleigh Competition. They’ll work fine up to 7 speeds, I’d guess.
I run suntour XC thumb shifters on a bike with a 10 speed rear end, works fine.
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Old 07-07-20, 04:01 AM
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ascherer , I have some SunTour thumbshifters if you’re interested. I’ve had them on several upright bar builds, most recently a Raleigh Competition. They’ll work fine up to 7 speeds, I’d guess.
How much do you want for them?
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Old 07-07-20, 05:52 AM
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How much do you want for them?
Headed to ascherer .
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Old 07-07-20, 06:02 AM
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Headed to ascherer .
Ok. I have zero experience with handlebar shifters. This may be a stupid question, but do they effect the handling at all?
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Old 07-07-20, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jblackmd View Post
Ok. I have zero experience with handlebar shifters. This may be a stupid question, but do they effect the handling at all?
Are you sure you’re not thinking of bar-end shifters for drop bars (which do involve moving your hands to the drops to shift)? Thumb shifters on upright bars only
involve moving your thumbs! Should not affect handling.
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Old 07-07-20, 06:13 AM
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Are you sure you’re not thinking of bar-end shifters for drop bars (which do involve moving your hands to the drops to shift)? Thumb shifters on upright bars only
involve moving your thumbs! Should not affect handling.
I wasn't. I was wondering more about running shifter cables onto the handlebars. Cool. Maybe I'll get a set and try 'em out.
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Old 07-07-20, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jblackmd View Post
I wasn't. I was wondering more about running shifter cables onto the handlebars. Cool. Maybe I'll get a set and try 'em out.
Do it! Nothing better on a flat bar than some thumbies.

I did a little looking on ebay and this is a pretty good deal if you need a full drivetrain. Suntour friction thumbies can be expensive.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-mou...4AAOSwxzheuXQD

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Old 07-07-20, 12:23 PM
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Do it! Nothing better on a flat bar than some thumbies.

I did a little looking on ebay and this is a pretty good deal if you need a full drivetrain. Suntour friction thumbies can be expensive.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-mou...4AAOSwxzheuXQD
You got that right. Just bought a set for around 50 bucks. I trust you guys...
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Old 07-07-20, 02:29 PM
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Here's a collage I made for social media highlighting some of the design DNA of Carlton Raleighs:

Bonus points for the slightly crooked headbadge.
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@ascherer, it might have been a Monday or Friday bike, but they didn't mess up the seat stays at the seat lug as they often did.

A friend had an International with an eyelet on one rear dropout and none on the other.
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@ascherer, it might have been a Monday or Friday bike, but they didn't mess up the seat stays at the seat lug as they often did.
Not on top, no but looking from below the finishing work is a bit chunky I'll take that over gaps!

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That's bad, but I've seen worse. I had worse on my 1975 Gran Sport. Oy Raleighs. They are so imperfect and beautiful at the same time.
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That's bad, but I've seen worse. I had worse on my 1975 Gran Sport. Oy Raleighs. They are so imperfect and beautiful at the same time.
There ought to be a thread titled "Show us your botched Raleigh frame!"
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There ought to be a thread titled "Show us your botched Raleigh frame!"
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We could cull a bunch of existing BF posts.
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Old 07-07-20, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Piff View Post
There ought to be a thread titled "Show us your botched Raleigh frame!"
lmao i have some wonderful examples. The worst of them, my first International (the frame that was the parts donor for my current international) had an improperly brazed seat tube at the bottom bracket that ended up separating from it.. They also put it in upside down, the butted end was at the top haha.
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Old 07-10-20, 03:04 AM
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This thread being 89 pages long makes me realize that I must have been the only member with more than ten posts and no Raleigh Super Course.

But that has been corrected as of yesterday. Now I belong!

Lot of work to be done, though, before it is rideable. Starting with a soak in industrial strength penetrating oil.



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@non-fixie, you may not be impressed with the bike!
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@non-fixie, you may not be impressed with the bike!
I really don't know what to expect. But isn't that part of the fun?

And based on my personal experience so far I'd say that the relation between a bike's build quality and finish and my riding pleasure is hazy at best.
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@non-fixie, you may not be impressed with the bike!
What blasphemy is this??
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The cleanup and rebuild of the 72 I picked up a few weeks back is pretty much done, today was the first shakedown. My son will have to come by and see how he likes the setup. I have an honey B17 for him to try but I suspect he won't go for an unpadded saddle...yet. It rides nicely, as a Super Course should. I'm shellacking a pair of cork grips, and the Champion Narrow may be on the market soon. It's in good shape, just way too narrow for our anatomies.





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Now that I have made the requisite 10 posts in order to post pictures, I can share my two Super Courses: The one I acquired first (almost 20 years ago) was this '74 Mk II. It originally had a Nervar Sport crankset and a Huret Jubilee rear derailleur and shift levers. I used the Jubilee until its 40 year old springs became too tired to shift into the small cog and then replaced it with the Huret Challenger which is what was listed in the catalog for 1974.


Last November I came across a '73 Super Course as a box of parts on Craigslist for a bargain price. I was able to make it mine and built it up with the Nervar Sport crankset (for easier maintenance than cottered cranks) that was originally on my '74 and used the Huret Luxe derailleurs and "Manettes a Grand Levier"
that came on my wife's 1970 Super Course Mixte (she insists on indexed shifting).



The '73 is a slightly different bike to ride than the '74 - the head tube has a shallower angle and the wheelbase is an inch longer.
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The '73 is a slightly different bike to ride than the '74 - the head tube has a shallower angle and the wheelbase is an inch longer.
What are the top-tube measurements of the '73 and '74 ?
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What are the top-tube measurements of the '73 and '74 ?
They are the same at 22.5" c to c
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They are the same at 22.5" c to c
Thanks.

​​​​​​​Same as my '72 SC's and '72 GP
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