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Old 07-08-20, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by berner View Post
I've been getting my news from the NY Times and occasionally from the Providence Journal. Unlike adjoining neighbors, Sweden opted for no lock down or face masks. The neighbors have gotten infection rates way down but Sweden's has been climbing to the point that the Baltic countries are denying entry to Swedes.
What are their death rates like? Are they at least quarantining the elderly?
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Here's an interesting graph from the LA Times



One feature that is missing from this graph is scaling by state population, but that's not really the point of what it's trying to show.

The slope of the recent curve is the 'Current doubling time' (see index lines for comparative slopes). Curves that have leveled off are more green, curves that are shooting up are more blue.

Horizontal axis of 'days since 100th case' removes the effect of different states getting their waves starting at different dates.
Appears to be leveling off slowly. . Hopefully that is the case. I only took statistics because it was required, forgot most of it. Like you stated it leaves out the population of the state. I guess there are many variables to consider.
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Looking closer I didn’t pay enough attention to scale of cumulative cases bars. Now it looks bad. Especially 100,000 to 200,000 cases.
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Yeah, that's a logarithmic Y axis, so even the 'flat' curves are growing faster than they look
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Yeah, that's a logarithmic Y axis, so even the 'flat' curves are growing faster than they look
So you are saying that using higher math ISN'T flattening the curve and we've all been mislead? (I think we should use simple arithmetic scales and huge pieces of paper, just to drive home what is really happening.)
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Old 07-08-20, 05:52 PM
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Well, if it wasn't for the huge pieces of paper, that might be a good idea. And/or without a logarithmic scale, all the curves would just sit flat on the axis until right near the end when they shoot up in a straight line. That would make a stronger point, but also make it hard to see the whole pattern.

But yes, if the population can't understand what a logarithmic curve means, there's going to be problems expressing situations that exhibit exponential growth. I like when graphics on the web can be toggled between linear and logarithmic.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Well, if it wasn't for the huge pieces of paper, that might be a good idea. And/or without a logarithmic scale, all the curves would just sit flat on the axis until right near the end when they shoot up in a straight line. That would make a stronger point, but also make it hard to see the whole pattern.

But yes, if the population can't understand what a logarithmic curve means, there's going to be problems expressing situations that exhibit exponential growth. I like when graphics on the web can be toggled between linear and logarithmic.
Yup the general public will look at at logarithmic graph at a glance just like I did and say Wow itís getting better. Read closer at the graph itís getting worse and rapidly. Yes the scale at the bottom might have different time intervals. Good optical trick, at first I fell for it because I was too lazy to read it closely!
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Same time scale, different time offsets. Otherwise all those graphs would be shifted left and right and even harder to see what's what
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the lower graph is accurate again not reading close enough. I’m the worse at reading all the directions. Yup that graph is spot on and it ain’t good. But that is what people will see and say the curve has flattened. NO IT HAS NOT.
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So you are saying that using higher math ISN'T flattening the curve and we've all been mislead? (I think we should use simple arithmetic scales and huge pieces of paper, just to drive home what is really happening.)
Yup, that way they can see what an increase is. Bubba and Bubbette may not be able to comprehend a simple graph. And Iím not trying to be a clown but it is the truth. The general population canít grasp simple concepts.
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Here's a non-logarithmic graph. First time I've been slapped in the face with a linear representation with the magnitude of the 2nd wave, actually.

The graph itself is P&R, so I won't put the image here, but here's the link:
https://www.bikeforums.net/21580135-post652.html
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Hondo you got yerself a new avatar!
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Old 07-10-20, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Here's a non-logarithmic graph. First time I've been slapped in the face with a linear representation with the magnitude of the 2nd wave, actually.

The graph itself is P&R, so I won't put the image here, but here's the link:
https://www.bikeforums.net/21580135-post652.html
That link goes to another link to Velospace, a bicycle marketplace. Quite appropriate for BF but not much help here.
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Old 07-10-20, 04:07 PM
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Hondo you got yerself a new avatar!
Yup, Fifty Six sent it to me and it was cool. So it became my avatar.
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I was that stout 25 years ago ..
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
That link goes to another link to Velospace, a bicycle marketplace. Quite appropriate for BF but not much help here.
Hmm, here's another try:
https://www.bikeforums.net/21580135-post652.html

If that doesn't work, go to the current P&R 'Amusing' thread and look for post 652
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
Hmm, here's another try:
https://www.bikeforums.net/21580135-post652.html

If that doesn't work, go to the current P&R 'Amusing' thread and look for post 652
All your links take me to the same place, post 652 on the "Amusing" thread, Jet SanchEz's post with nothing but a link to Velospace. I just want to see that graph. (I do thank you for post 655. Made all the dead end trips worthwhile. Have you tried following your link as posted?)
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When I click that link I get to what I intend; it is a post by Jet SanchEz, he does have a sig. that links to velospace, but the graph image is displayed.

How about this direct link to the image?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eck9X5iX...pg&name=medium

(which also works for me)
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Texas needs a Covid sign like this one I saw on my road trip today. Except update the Covid deaths and maybe it will sink in to some of their heads.

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Yup, that way they can see what an increase is. Bubba and Bubbette may not be able to comprehend a simple graph. And I’m not trying to be a clown but it is the truth. The general population can’t grasp simple concepts.
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Texas needs a Covid sign like this one I saw on my road trip today. Except update the Covid deaths and maybe it will sink in to some of their heads.

I think every road should have a scoreboard style death counter, that'd be rad!

I'll even go out on a limb and say that motorcycles have killed more people than this virus will.

Also, if the (god) damned big dam breaks, the covid game is totally over in China!
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Morgue trailers showing up in Texas
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^^^^ maybe Doc Bartlett should head down to Houston. i think Htown is past critical in the low income areas. i talk with bike guys who avoid some inner city routes.
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Real covidiots! People who refuse to wear a mask or comply with social distancing have lower cognitive ability, new study shows

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...udy-shows.html
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