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Old 04-12-20, 02:06 PM
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Campy 50th Anniversary gruppo as investment?

Just curious - what are typical prices these days for a new 50th Anniversary gruppo, and how would the appreciation in price stack up against having put the same amount as the original price into, say, a mutual fund?
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You mean that groupset that wasn't particularly desirable when in came out, and isn't all that desirable today? I'm glad you're not my financial adviser.

There's three NOS on ebay at the moment; about $5000 - $7000. Looking at NOS 50th groupsets that have been sold, the prices are more within $3000 - $4000.

To be honest I don't think it's a very good investment. But hey, what do I know? I'm still working for a living.
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LA Craigslist has a decent looking Ron Cooper 60cm complete bike, asking $2775, including Campy Anniversary gruppu. I've seen just the anniversary gruppo go for more than that. Just sayin ...
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50th sets are a niche item that hasn't gone up in value a whole lot. I can speak from personal experience.

I bought my first lightly-used set in 1994 and rode it. Sold it off in pieces in the mid-2000s and made about $2000 total. The second set was purchased in 1995, was mint in the original case and sold for around $3800 about 10 years ago. Both on Ebay.

I can't see it as an investment because the number of people looking for them is necessarily small - so it's not like one can make out like a bandit even though the sets are thin on the ground. Plus, honestly? It's for display only in most people's minds. While I rode mine, I was young(er) and dumb(er).

Lastly: you get over having a set. You see it as parts you want to use, but know you shouldn't. It's quite a dilemma - that's why I sold all mine. I'd rather ride the stuff (and maybe poke some holes in it) than look at it.

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Unless it is NIB and has a serial number below 500, not much of an investment.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
50th sets are a niche item that hasn't gone up in value a whole lot. I can speak from personal experience.

I bought my first lightly-used set in 1994 and rode it. Sold it off in pieces in the mid-2000s and made about $2000 total. The second set was purchased in 1995, was mint in the original case and sold for around $3800 about 10 years ago. Both on Ebay.

I can't see it as an investment because the number of people looking for them is necessarily small - so it's not like one can make out like a bandit even though the sets are thin on the ground. Plus, honestly? It's for display only in most people's minds. While I rode mine, I was young(er) and dumb(er).

Lastly: you get over having a set. You see it as parts you want to use, but know you shouldn't. It's quite a dilemma - that's why I sold all mine. I'd rather ride the stuff (and maybe poke some holes in it) than look at it.

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well said. I don’t do any of this stuff as an investment. Some of my bikes I guess could be parted out for more than a complete bike, I would not do that because it ain’t about the money. The only reason I sell anything is to buy something I want more! I have made money on a couple of bikes, by accident. Joe
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With rare exceptions “bicycling” and “investment” are contradiction in terms.
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With rare exceptions “bicycling” and “investment” are contradiction in terms.
If only there was a way to "short" bicycle parts/groups... as pretty and nice as this stuff is, who's going to want to shell out big bucks for it in another 25 or 50 years?
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If you had put in in the market around March 25th, you'd be sitting pretty.
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the 50th group has done better than how the 80th has been moving.
When the 50th was new, it was laughed at. Few serious riders bought in, prices dropped.
The reported numbers of groups rose.
I like some elements, I like the rear derailleur if it had the typical ti bolts, not the Gucci ones.
I like the shift levers too.

Yes, a complete bike (usually with low use) is much cheaper than one in the container.
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The quickest way to make $1000 collecting bikes (and bike parts) is to start with $2000.
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The quickest way to make $1000 collecting bikes (and bike parts) is to start with $2000.
Yes.

Most often, this is true.

I currently have two bikes that this applies to.
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When the 1972 olympics were in town, the german bank issued commemorative 10 D-Mark (~5€) coins as collectors items. These are today worth about 4€. The 50th anniversario group performs in a similar way.
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Even back when they came out, I thought they were just capricious marketing trinkets from Campy. And seeing them being sold in those silly "presentation" cases just put me off them more.
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What I have seen, over the years and more-so today, is that hgher end bikes are still going up in value. My guess is that the Campy group might preform the same way. As an investment, I would buy toilet paper, right now, if investment is the target. You will really clean up:-(
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Just curious - what are typical prices these days for a new 50th Anniversary gruppo, and how would the appreciation in price stack up against having put the same amount as the original price into, say, a mutual fund?
Part 1- Suspiciously follow ebay sale reports.

Part 2- Suspiciously 'trust' some mutual funds. As the cop sez "spread em" and while you're getting cuffed.

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What I have seen, over the years and more-so today, is that hgher end bikes are still going up in value. My guess is that the Campy group might preform the same way. As an investment, I would buy toilet paper, right now, if investment is the target. You will really clean up:-(
Folks who want to be prepared for "next time" are installing bidets now.
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if a person were to purchase one would think it wise to get one with the registration

at launch, it was announced that only registered buyers could purchase spare parts

do not know if any of those spares are available today...


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The quickest way to make $1000 collecting bikes (and bike parts) is to start with $2000.
Or my philosophy: Buy high, sell never
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... new 50th Anniversary gruppo ... how would the appreciation in price stack up against ... mutual fund?
In down times, playing with the kid's college fund can be quite entertaining.
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I've had a 50th gruppo fitted to an appropriate bike since the early 1990's and I love having the gruppo. It is a little bit special and it really does suit the bike. I bought it second hand but in very good condition for Aus$1500 (for you Yanks, that's around US$800) and I reckon it was a good deal. I just appreciate having this gruppo and, yes, I feel it was a marketing ploy but more importantly a celebration of Tullio Campagnolo's contribution to cycling for 50 years of his company's existence. (Just imagine how proud you would feel owning a celebrated company for 50 years?) This groupset must have been designed and implemented while Tullio was alive but unfortunately he died just before it was introduced in 1983. I really think this 50th anniversary groupset means far more to the Campagnolo company than just a marketing tool and it was a 'must have' dream of mine that i'm pleased to say that I realised. I'm afraid that 'Campagnolo' has always meant more to me than just a means of turning a frame into a bike - it's been a certain way of life for me.

I suppose $1500 back in the 1990's would equate to, what, $4000 today? Is that what the asking price is today? Perhaps this gruppo has increased in value but not that much over the years.

It's quite obvious that this 50th anniversary grouppo does not and will not spark a similar cord with everyone but that's okay. That's what makes classic bike appreciation such fun.

Quite personally, has my 50th anniversary groupset appreciated in value over the years I have owned this gruppo? Yes and no. No, I have always appreciated having it and yes, I think it's value has increased over the time of my ownership but the monetary value is really of no concern to me.

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