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Is my 90s Cannondale 'Classic & Vintage'?

Old 07-09-20, 11:18 AM
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Is my 90s Cannondale 'Classic & Vintage'?

Hi folks. Not sure if I'm in the right section, but I've not been cycling for a while and have bought a mid 90s Cannondale 2.8 road bike.

The frame is probably an R600, made in 1993 and built in 1995, with Campagnolo Veloce 8 speed components (52/42), Cinelli 65 bars and a 1A stem. I've been stripping it down and servicing it, although the original owner, who I bought it from, had it built for his wife, who hardly used it. So it's in almost mint condition. The picture is from the previous owner's auction.

To me, the frame and build has all the feel of a classic bike, but how would you guys categorise it and does it give me entry to 'Classic & Vintage'?


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Quill stem = yes.
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Classic? definitely. This was the before and after of a close cousin to yours, my '94 R600 which I built up for my wife.


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Crazy rear dropouts -- what was the advantage of those? Looks like a steel fork on OP's version.
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Originally Posted by Charles Wahl View Post
Crazy rear dropouts -- what was the advantage of those? Looks like a steel fork on OP's version.
Thanks for the endorsements guys. Dunno what the thinking was on the quirky seat-stays, Charles, but setting the cassette back sure makes cleaning them easier. Seems to make wheel removal / fitting easier, but then I might just be imagining that. Alloy forks on mine ;-)
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Originally Posted by Charles Wahl View Post
Crazy rear dropouts -- what was the advantage of those? Looks like a steel fork on OP's version.
The Cannondale experts can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Klein had the patent on aluminium dropouts at the time, so to get around it, Cannondale employed the cantilevered dropouts which were prone to failures and probably helped to establish the 'crack n fail' moniker that persisted for some time.
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The stays like that were for additional stiffness, I believe. One of the resident Cannondale fans here, plus it's 1993. C&V status earned by that bike. Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
The Cannondale experts can correct me if I'm wrong... Cannondale employed the cantilevered dropouts which were prone to failures....
How very reassuring! One reason to lose a bit of weight I suppose.


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I thought the wheels needed brightening up, so I just bought some para (gum) sidewall Vittoria Corsa's.

Also going to try some high polished Deda Speciale bars and a Nitto stem. The Cinelli stuff is nice, but I couldn't get the bar clamp as tight as I'd like it and have now sheared the bolt (it's probably tight enough, but I no longer trust it). In any case, the 65 Criterium bars are not really made for the less flexible gentleman who rarely gets into the drops.

Will post more pics - for the Cannondale connoisseurs and others of impeccable taste - when done.
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Originally Posted by Charles Wahl View Post
Crazy rear dropouts -- what was the advantage of those? Looks like a steel fork on OP's version.
The wacko head of engineering only cared about stiffness.
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
The stays like that were for additional stiffness, I believe. One of the resident Cannondale fans here, plus it's 1993. C&V status earned by that bike. Enjoy!
Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
The Cannondale experts can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Klein had the patent on aluminium dropouts at the time, so to get around it, Cannondale employed the cantilevered dropouts which were prone to failures and probably helped to establish the 'crack n fail' moniker that persisted for some time.
While Cannondale certainly publicly said it was for additional stiffness, privately it was to get around IP, if P!N20 is indeed correct. It no doubt adds cost and eats margin, so marketing needed a spin. If they didn't continue the "feature", especially after the patent expired, it is definitely marketing BS.

ANd definately C&V.
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defintly C&V

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here is my 1990 C-dale
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I had a Cannondale MTB with the same type of rear dropout. I converted it to a dropbar bike, removed the so called safety brake levers and used the studs (after modifying them by filing flats on them) to mount shifters on them. The bike now belongs to a neighbour and he loves the ride. I did too when I had it but had far too many bikes.




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