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Old 11-27-17, 09:18 AM
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Being eight months out of having an honest day job I can say the answer is “never.”
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Old 11-27-17, 09:46 AM
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Concur.
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Not to rub it in, but I can't imagine working a full time office job while also training properly and being a good partner. There just aren't enough hours in the day. Serious props to any of you that pull it off!
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Not to rub it in, but I can't imagine working a full time office job while also training properly and being a good partner. There just aren't enough hours in the day. Serious props to any of you that pull it off!
Yeah, that's why I don't actually ride bikes anymore. Even when I hope to get back into it, I dream of like, 6 or 7 hours a week on the high end.
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Not to rub it in, but I can't imagine working a full time office job while also training properly and being a good partner. There just aren't enough hours in the day. Serious props to any of you that pull it off!
Haven't figured it out yet. Still working on it.
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Old 11-27-17, 03:13 PM
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Not to rub it in, but I can't imagine working a full time office job while also training properly and being a good partner. There just aren't enough hours in the day. Serious props to any of you that pull it off!
My wife travels about 30 weeks out of the year, so there's that.
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Concur.
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I didn't work for 4.5 years, taking care of Junior and my dad. I also had a "cush" job for a while, in the hardware store. And before that my job, although long hours, allowed me to work the Spring Series basically while I was working.

Now, with no real access to the internet, no real leeway on schedule (like hardware store), with the extra responsibility of Junior (and it's just as much me wanting to spend time with him as it is "being responsible"), I have zero time to blog, etc. I consider it "not bad" if I ride once a week.

With all that there are all these projects that I would want to do if I wasn't working.

I told the Missus that if I came into a ton of money I'd quit working. She said she'd go nuts not working. Me? I'd be totally psyched.
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Not to rub it in, but I can't imagine working a full time office job while also training properly and being a good partner. There just aren't enough hours in the day. Serious props to any of you that pull it off!
There are enough hours in the day for all that though - I can attest.

An understanding partner helps, for sure, but that's the case no matter what.
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There are enough hours in the day for all that though - I can attest.

An understanding partner helps, for sure, but that's the case no matter what.
Having a supportive partner helps, but there are other variables to consider too. I know if I had to commute an hour each way, that would certainly affect my training and relationship time. And if I had kids, well, I don't know how I'd fit kid time in too. Fortunately, I have a short commute and only a dog.
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They let everyone go early last week on Wednesday, and since I had already worked a decent number of hours, and I average 45 hours or so in a normal week, and I get in early anyway (they were letting people leave at 2:30, but some people get in at 10, and I get in at 7:30, doesn't exactly seem fair, but the early people are always getting screwed, so nothing new there) my boss told me to just work late Tuesday and take Wednesday off and not worry about it.

So I did that. This morning he comes and tells me that, actually, I need to take a vacation day for that. So I worked late Tuesday for no reason, and lost 8 hours of vacation when I could've come in for 4 hours in the morning and called it good.

First world problems I know, complaining about my salary engineering position, but still really frustrating.
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There are enough hours in the day for all that though - I can attest.

An understanding partner helps, for sure, but that's the case no matter what.
Impressive! I have teammates that pull it off too, I just know that for me it would be unsustainable; I would wind up half-assing everything.
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Having a supportive partner helps, but there are other variables to consider too. I know if I had to commute an hour each way, that would certainly affect my training and relationship time. And if I had kids, well, I don't know how I'd fit kid time in too. Fortunately, I have a short commute and only a dog.
Same.

Short commute + cats ftw. I dunno about that dog business.. =]
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Fact: Dogs are better than Cats.
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Dogs are better than cats.

On the flip side, they're more work, so you get back what you put in I suppose.
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The new asthma medication I've been taking has been giving me chest pains. Asthma is completely gone, but I can't sleep with anxiety and I get this weird gushing feel in my chest every few hours. The company says its perfectly fine, however another site says 1 in 700 have heart attacks. Since I'm active and go to MaxHR a few times a week, I'm probably more at risk.

So that's off the table, as bad as the asthma attacks are I'd take them over a heart attack.

Ultimately, this is just a winter issue and something I just have to deal with in the short term (hopefully); the asthma is there in the summer but its more of an inconvenience.
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Dogs are better than cats.

On the flip side, they're more work, so you get back what you put in I suppose.

She showed up on our in laws doorstep, and they were going to take her to the pound (which she'd get put down since she's a pit bull) so we took her in. I was leery of owning a pit but she's harmless.




Probably the smartest dog we've owned too; she gets pillows from all over the house, piles them up to sleep on. Meanwhile, 14 years and our dalmation still attacks its own tail.
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Fact: Dogs are better than Cats.
Indeed.

Plus dogs aren't decimating the songbird population.
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They let everyone go early last week on Wednesday, and since I had already worked a decent number of hours, and I average 45 hours or so in a normal week, and I get in early anyway (they were letting people leave at 2:30, but some people get in at 10, and I get in at 7:30, doesn't exactly seem fair, but the early people are always getting screwed, so nothing new there) my boss told me to just work late Tuesday and take Wednesday off and not worry about it.

So I did that. This morning he comes and tells me that, actually, I need to take a vacation day for that. So I worked late Tuesday for no reason, and lost 8 hours of vacation when I could've come in for 4 hours in the morning and called it good.

First world problems I know, complaining about my salary engineering position, but still really frustrating.
Salary aside... that's not right. I think we're all white collar here, or "white coat" as my dad likes to put it for us STEM types

Your boss either misled you or was misinformed himself when he told you to "not worry about it". I would explain to him that you misunderstood him when he said to "not worry about it", and that working late and using PTO are things that are important to you, and worth worrying about. If you knew the outcome of the situation was working late AND using PTO, you probably would have proceeded differently.

If you guys have a good relationship than it should be a fairly simple conversation. If not, then good luck, or maybe don't bring it up? For reference I'm also salaried, exempt and work a similar amount that you do, and that would have pissed me off. Not that I really take that much PTO, but still, wtf... I also have a great relationship w my manager and never hesitate to bring this kind of stuff up.
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Salary aside... that's not right. I think we're all white collar here, or "white coat" as my dad likes to put it for us STEM types

Your boss either misled you or was misinformed himself when he told you to "not worry about it". I would explain to him that you misunderstood him when he said to "not worry about it", and that working late and using PTO are things that are important to you, and worth worrying about. If you knew the outcome of the situation was working late AND using PTO, you probably would have proceeded differently.

If you guys have a good relationship than it should be a fairly simple conversation. If not, then good luck, or maybe don't bring it up? For reference I'm also salaried, exempt and work a similar amount that you do, and that would have pissed me off. Not that I really take that much PTO, but still, wtf... I also have a great relationship w my manager and never hesitate to bring this kind of stuff up.
Yeah, we don't have the best relationship, mostly because I'm at the same title as him, but with my license, so we're really more equal or I'm above him in engineering terms. I'll be out from under him whenever I ask the branch manager to do it (to where I was originally supposed to be all along when hired) so I'm not going to worry about it. I think he got overruled probably. I asked him yesterday morning where to charge that time, and he gave me a project, so we were clearly on the same page at that point. My only concern is if the person doing the overruling got the full story or thinks I was trying to get away with something. They also act like they're doing me a favor when they give comp time for working Saturday night at a customer site when I already worked a full week. There's a reason people work there for a bit to get it on the resume and then the good ones bounce. I was planning 6 years, but I might not make it at this rate.

Sorry that got long, I'm rambling and venting.
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Sounds like a "grin and bear it" type situation. You can clearly see the light at the end of the tunnel and the bigger picture, so probably not worth fussing about. Maybe by the time you're done there you can write a book on workplace politics
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I just want to say that where I work as a salaried, exempt employee anything under 4 hours can be unreported PTO. So ****ing nice now that I have a boss that let's me use it.
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I just want to say that where I work as a salaried, exempt employee anything under 4 hours can be unreported PTO. So ****ing nice now that I have a boss that let's me use it.
That's how my previous job was. Make it somewhere close to half a day and you were fine. And if you ended up with 33 hours for the week, that was fine if you got your work done.
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