First impressions of GP5000 from longtime Gatorskin user
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These "debates" are as much informative as cable debates on the HIFI forums. PPL will duke it out for days over literally non existent differences. Now, Im not saying any tyre is the same. Obviously they are not, but subjective impressions are highly susceptible to all kinds of bias and clams should be taken with more than a pinch of salt.
Why is it no one publish any data to support the claims of highly improved "comfort" when is should be easy measuring vibration acceleration with different tyres at the same pressure over the same streach of road with the same speed? Even a phone can do that!
Why is it no one publish any data to support the claims of highly improved "comfort" when is should be easy measuring vibration acceleration with different tyres at the same pressure over the same streach of road with the same speed? Even a phone can do that!
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Maybe it isnt all that funny after all. At road pressures there are no "supple" tyres. They are all "frozen garden hoses" and any inherent suppleness that can be felt fondling a tyre off the bike is completely swamped at 80 psi. Maybe some one should quantify just how much pressure difference would completely negate the difference between a claimed supple tyre and not supple tyre. I bet you its not much, as suppleness and comfort is mostly pressure related to begin with, - except maybe outside of the most extreme anti puncture tyres like marathon plus and such.
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Comparing GP5000 to Gatorskin is like comparing a Porsche Boxter to a Jeep Wrangler. They're designed for different purposes. For speed and handling, the GP5000 is one of the best tires available. For durability and long life, the Gatorskin is one of the best tires available. Unfortunately, you cannot simultaneously have indestructible durability and supple speed in the same tire, so you have to choose one priority or the other.
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Comparing GP5000 to Gatorskin is like comparing a Porsche Boxter to a Jeep Wrangler. They're designed for different purposes. For speed and handling, the GP5000 is one of the best tires available. For durability and long life, the Gatorskin is one of the best tires available. Unfortunately, you cannot simultaneously have indestructible durability and supple speed in the same tire, so you have to choose one priority or the other.
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Of course I'm being facetious, I am aware that tire width trumps almost anything as far as comfort goes. I like the Pro Race better than comparable cheap 23's I replaced with them many years ago. On the other hand, I've never felt similar size Gatorskins to be awful.
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Try some 32mm if your bike allows.
Gatorskins, much like the Bontrager Hard Case lites are like wrapping a garden house around your wheel.
Gatorskins, much like the Bontrager Hard Case lites are like wrapping a garden house around your wheel.
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I run ordinary GPs. Half the price of GP5000 (which I have not tried) but more puncture resistant (per bicyclerollingresistance.com), and in my experience way more comfortable than the Gatorskins at the same width and pressure.
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I’m liking the gp 5000 tr’s so far. The roads are pretty messy around here at the moment and no issues to report so far. It’s early days but I’m happy I opted for them.
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I originally bought a pair of ordinary GP (no trailing numbers) to use as a pair, but ended up installing one on the rear with a GP 5000 in the front when I found that the two are similarly wide. Ordinary GP are getting hard to find.
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for me, it doesn't take long to switch out tires. I can run anything, within a few minutes
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used them in a light drizzle
handled superbly
this is my new tire
this is my new tire
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Like almost all the opinions on gear on this website, the opinions here are mainly highly subjective. People like certain tires over others. I do, too. But the only thing I can really determine with any accuracy is how many flats I get. On some tires I've ridden, I've gotten no flats at all. On others a few and on some a lot. As to qualities like grip and handling,I wonder how one can determine these qualities. Do people turn corners and the bike slides out from under them and they crash? Softness of ride can be felt, but as some posters have said, inflation has a lot to do with that quality. In the long run, whatever tires a rider uses are really dependent on what that rider likes. I'd like to see some blind tests to determine such qualities as tire performance. I don't think I could tell the difference between the various performance levels is such tests. But that's just me. I imagine some riders are more perceptive than I am. But as far as puncture resistance, your experience will easily tell which tires get fewer punctures.
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went on one of my favorite hill rides after a rain. light patches of wet cement and the tires handles beautifully. I wasn't brave enough to go don't the hill at my normal speed, but pretty close to it. Plus I had some cars come up while going down so I had to do some "emergency" braking
Anyway, I really am impressed with these tires. They roll better, have better grip are lighter and just "feel" better than the gatorskins. longevity and flat resistance remain to be seen...
Anyway, I really am impressed with these tires. They roll better, have better grip are lighter and just "feel" better than the gatorskins. longevity and flat resistance remain to be seen...
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I tried doing blind tests, but I kept riding into things.
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Absolutely love the GP 5000s
Just wanted to update that I’ve been putting on the miles and am very impressed. It will take a lot to get me to switch tires now
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late to the party - so please forgive me if this has been covered already
GP5000 - Gatorskin
I believe the GP4S would sit between the GP5000 and the Gatorskin ... ??? ... (in the Continental line)
GP4S should weigh less and roll better than the Gatorskin - but still offer better durability and puncture protection than the GP5000 ... ???
( Ultra Sport is a great low cost alternative to GP5000 - but does not significant increase in durability or puncture protection (if at all ?) )
GP5000 - Gatorskin
I believe the GP4S would sit between the GP5000 and the Gatorskin ... ??? ... (in the Continental line)
GP4S should weigh less and roll better than the Gatorskin - but still offer better durability and puncture protection than the GP5000 ... ???
( Ultra Sport is a great low cost alternative to GP5000 - but does not significant increase in durability or puncture protection (if at all ?) )
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late to the party - so please forgive me if this has been covered already
GP5000 - Gatorskin
I believe the GP4S would sit between the GP5000 and the Gatorskin ... ??? ... (in the Continental line)
GP4S should weigh less and roll better than the Gatorskin - but still offer better durability and puncture protection than the GP5000 ... ???
( Ultra Sport is a great low cost alternative to GP5000 - but does not significant increase in durability or puncture protection (if at all ?) )
GP5000 - Gatorskin
I believe the GP4S would sit between the GP5000 and the Gatorskin ... ??? ... (in the Continental line)
GP4S should weigh less and roll better than the Gatorskin - but still offer better durability and puncture protection than the GP5000 ... ???
( Ultra Sport is a great low cost alternative to GP5000 - but does not significant increase in durability or puncture protection (if at all ?) )
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