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Equipment/Product Review (1983) Triple Cranksets for Touring (Berto)

Old 06-09-20, 09:59 AM
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There is a lot of good information here for anyone setting up an old school triple on a bike. The point the article makes that the chainrings are more closely spaced on older triples, such as the TA and the stronglight, means that you are better off running a narrower front derailleur which in turns means you will do a lot more trimming.
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"the TA and Stronglight taper is a bit on the large size and those cranks will often bottom out on other people's spindles."

Ah, the good old days, when people didn't spend hours arguing about what arbitrary classification your spindle taper belonged to, because they didn't exist yet... Precisely enough precision.
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Thanks very much for posting this!

For readers too young to have seen it Mr. Berto also did a whole series of articles on triple drive trains in an earlier issue. Do not recall the date; other readers are sure to know it.

In case anyone wishes to search for a Mikkelsen adaptor chainwheel it would be wise to get the spelling correct. Frank has it Mikelson which is wrong two ways.

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Berto's book on bicycle gearing, long out of print, is also an excellent primer on the subject.
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"When I build a gear train with a triple crankset, I operate on a no-compromise basis." I like Frank Berto.
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Remember when Bicycling! had actual articles? Those were the days! I actually have a pair of Vittoria shoes just like the ones in the ad. Thanks for the post.
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Originally Posted by juvela
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Thanks very much for posting this!

For readers too young to have seen it Mr. Berto also did a whole series of articles on thriple drive trains in an earlier issue. Do not recall the date; other readers are sure to know it.

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@juvela drops a dime! Here they are nice and tidy.

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Originally Posted by SuperLJ
Remember when Bicycling! had actual articles? Those were the days! I actually have a pair of Vittoria shoes just like the ones in the ad. Thanks for the post.
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enjoyed the magazine so much more when it was produced by Leete. had the distinct impression that it was seen by Rodale solely as a marketing tool.

there was real down-to-earth substance in the content during the Leete time.


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Thanks for posting, love Berto's work! Thanks! Bicycling USED to be a very informative rag, got all PC!
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Originally Posted by SuperLJ
Remember when Bicycling! had actual articles? Those were the days! I actually have a pair of Vittoria shoes just like the ones in the ad. Thanks for the post.
glad to know that I wasn't the only one eyeing those Vittorias!
I've got a few pairs of vintage shoes, and really don't need any more.... but a pair of those would be pretty nice!

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(size 46, just in case anyone has a pair gathering dust)
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy
glad to know that I wasn't the only one eyeing those Vittorias!
I've got a few pairs of vintage shoes, and really don't need any more.... but a pair of those would be pretty nice!

Steve in Peoria
(size 46, just in case anyone has a pair gathering dust)
Although mine are also “Superleggeros”, apparently they’re from a couple years later, as they have a Look drilling in addition to cleats. I wear them once a year for our bike club’s annual “Antiques on Antiques” ride.

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Although mine are also “Superleggeros”, apparently they’re from a couple years later, as they have a Look drilling in addition to cleats. I wear them once a year for our bike club’s annual “Antiques on Antiques” ride.
I like that you've got a Sugino AT in the background of that photo! Ties in with the Frank Berto very nicely!
I suspect that I'm a weirdo, even in the C&V community. I only wear slotted cleats on my vintage bikes, and probably do 3000 miles a year with them.

On other bikes, I still use clips and straps, but will use bike shoes w/o cleats....



in an effort to avoid thread drift, please note the Sugino AT set up as a half-step-plus-granny. I think/hope that Frank B. would approve of the component selection. The Sugino AT is a wonderful crank; easily set up as a double or triple, and with a huge range of available rings.

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there was a period back in the 1980's when I would get regular updates on Frank's latest researches

his "day job" was working for Standard Oil of California (Chevron)

I had a bike rebuilding friend who lived just a stone's throw S of San Francisco and who also worked for Chevron making working models of proposed pumping facilities

he developed his own system of hybrid gearing; combining S-A with two and three cog gear blocks, similar idea to Benelux system but more modern

he and Frank would see each other regularly at work and talk bicycle drive trains for a few minutes

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