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Old 05-20-09, 07:41 AM
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Three year old killed :(

https://www.twincities.com/columnists...252?source=rss <-- fixed link


And just this morning another cyclist was killed.
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Old 05-22-09, 05:43 PM
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Hmm... must not be newsworthy for A&S.
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Well. The link won't load, so I have no idea. This A&S thus remains unable to comment.
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Sorry...

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I saw this news item when it happened.

No insurance and passed cars stopped at the crosswalk. The best the family can hope for is that they throw the book at this guy. Hopefully that will mean losing his license and a good long stretch in prison. Hate to say it, but not very likely. More like a short sentence and a short suspension of his license, which he will probably ignore. But I hope I'm wrong.

My Godson is three; I worry about him all the time.

Rest in Peace, little Jack.
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Originally Posted by kuan
Hmm... must not be newsworthy for A&S.
While the death is indeed tragic, the point of posting this in A&S is?

Seriously, is the crowd here so morbid they need to drag in stories of death. How about a happy story of Iraqi children playing in sunflower fields?
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Cycling life is dangerous enough without worrying about non-cycling car crashes.
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I think it's a good post. It goes to show how we always need to expect the unexpected. Also, how old is a 66 year old's grandparents?
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Originally Posted by Kerlenbach
Cycling life is dangerous enough without worrying about non-cycling car crashes.
The three-year-old was on a bike, crossing in the crosswalk with other children, All the cars had stopped to let them cross, this jackass passed all the stopped cars, on the right, and blew through the crosswalk, killing this little guy the day before Mother's Day.
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No insurance and the person hit and killed a 3 year old, license should be revoked permanently.
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This is a story about JAMs... and how they feel they own the road.

Everyone else had stopped, and was waiting for the children to cross... yet this one guy HAD to drive past a line of stopped cars, on the shoulder, and just HAD to get through that intersection. One ounce of common sense on the drivers' part could have saved this child.

Jack was with several other children who were crossing a road. Traffic had stopped to let the children to cross when authorities say a van driven by Sherman Bernard Frederick passed the waiting cars on the right shoulder and struck Jack. The boy died at the scene.
I hope they hang the driver.
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Originally Posted by genec
This is a story about JAMs... and how they feel they own the road
I fail to see any mention of the motorist thinking he had some divine right to the road. Nice sentiment though, really goes to the whole us vs them mentality the A&S hand wringers like to foster.
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Originally Posted by Mitchxout
Also, how old is a 66 year old's grandparents?
The three year old was visiting his grandparents.
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Postings like this remind me of people who rubberneck at an accident scene.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
The three-year-old was on a bike, crossing in the crosswalk with other children, All the cars had stopped to let them cross, this jackass passed all the stopped cars, on the right, and blew through the crosswalk, killing this little guy the day before Mother's Day.


RIP...Ghost bike in a child's size?

Good long prison term for JAM...
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Originally Posted by alicestrong
RIP...Ghost bike in a child's size
Yeah, that's a nice touch.
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Originally Posted by dobber
Yeah, that's a nice touch.
Damn right it's nice...

From the Ghost Bike website

For a Departed Daughter, a White Schwinn on a Manhattan Street Corner
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Published: Mar, 1 2009
New York Times

For the past seven months or so, the couple has made the trip to the corner of 49th Street and First Avenue in Manhattan 20 times. There,
chained to a “no standing” sign, is a bicycle painted in white. This spot, rather than a grave site, is where they go to feel close to their daughter.
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He should have been taking the lane.
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Originally Posted by dobber
I fail to see any mention of the motorist thinking he had some divine right to the road. Nice sentiment though, really goes to the whole us vs them mentality the A&S hand wringers like to foster.
Really... so a motorist "goes to the head of the line" so to speak, and you see no reason to think "he had some divine right to the road?"
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Really... so a motorist "goes to the head of the line" so to speak, and you see no reason to think "he had some divine right to the road?"
We call it filtering nub.
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We call it filtering nub.

When it's done illegally by an impatient motorist in Minnesota, and the result is the death of a child legally crossing the road, they call it Criminal Vehicular Homicide.

Will wonders never cease? A negligent driver may actually be held responsible, at least in some small way, for his actions.
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Originally Posted by alicestrong
RIP...Ghost bike in a child's size?
Maybe. We'll try to organize. It's a long ride up and back from the Minneapolis area.
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Originally Posted by StrangeWill
We call it filtering nub.
It's "filtering" and "sharing the road" when a two wheeled vehicle uses what is left of the pavement to progress forward. It's a crime when a four wheeled motorist does it to other four wheeled motorists. In nearly every state I can think of, it is a crime to pass on the right.
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Originally Posted by genec
It's "filtering" and "sharing the road" when a two wheeled vehicle uses what is left of the pavement to progress forward. It's a crime when a four wheeled motorist does it to other four wheeled motorists. In nearly every state I can think of, it is a crime to pass on the right.

And 99% of motorists will justify the action. Just like the cyclist who won't stop for a red.
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Originally Posted by dobber
And 99% of motorists will justify the action. Just like the cyclist who won't stop for a red.
Really... then why is it the majority of motorists stopped and waited and only this one clown went forward and around? According to you... 99% would have just gone around.

And comparing red light running cyclists, who are taking their own lives in hand to do so, is hardly an even close parallel to a lane jumping motorist that killed a kid.
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