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Old 11-21-20, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
What makes for a fancy day?
That's for each individual rider to decide, unless you're on a tweed ride or Eroica style ride, then it's enforced fanciness

(they don't actually make you use vintage or vintage style water bottles tho)
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AG saw Lawson Craddock out for his morning ride.

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AG saw Lawson Craddock out for his morning ride.

https://www.strava.com/activities/4370958025
Did she wave? Did he??
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
Would you hit off a tee?
Affirmative, a 3-4 foot version of a golf tee.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
That's for each individual rider to decide, unless you're on a tweed ride or Eroica style ride, then it's enforced fanciness
I bet if you asked riders 100 years ago they would say take plastic bottles on the fancy days.
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Affirmative, a 3-4 foot version of a golf tee.
You play in a tee-ball softball league?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
I bet if you asked riders 100 years ago they would say take plastic bottles on the fancy days.
SS bottles do taste better. If only they could be made to be squishy...

If they tasted water out of a plastic bottle from the 80s they'd probably pass.

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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Did she wave? Did he??
She was driving to the pool, opposite way.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
Elaborate.I'm obtuse.
^^^^fify
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
I bet if you asked riders 100 years ago they would say take plastic bottles on the fancy days.
That doesn't make them right.
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Old 11-21-20, 03:19 PM
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There is no such thing as an outdoor Z1-2 ride if you live in hilly terrain and have a FTP < 4W/kg. I donít even think about it anymore.
I donít think of the area around here as hilly, but maybe it is, most of our rollers get to the 6-8% range which makes z2 difficult
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UP 4020 leaving Cheyenne April 7, 1957. A rare calm day.

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
You play in a tee-ball softball league?
Negative, it's just a good technique to sharpen your hand-eye coordination.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09 View Post
I donít think of the area around here as hilly, but maybe it is, most of our rollers get to the 6-8% range which makes z2 difficult
I could do it here if I had ridiculous gears and didnít mind poking along alone at 7 mph, but thatís not what I ride for. Also, at age 64 with a job, slow distance is a waste of time. Data suggest old people need lots of VO2max and threshold training and it certainly works for me.
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Post ride mid afternoon meal. Up on the roof. #Drifters

I had a grilled chicken chipotle ceasar salad and the Mrs. had the same in a cobb salad. Had an incident with a motorist on my ride.

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I could do it here if I had ridiculous gears and didnít mind poking along alone at 7 mph, but thatís not what I ride for. Also, at age 64 with a job, slow distance is a waste of time. Data suggest old people need lots of VO2max and threshold training and it certainly works for me.
Same here, Iíd rather almost puke from the effort of a hill than take it slow.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
how? I really tried to keep my heart rate down, coasted on anything that would allow me to not pedal and still roll forward.

I guess my speed sometimes still krept up, but I keep my cadence really high, maybe too high? I was trying not to put pressure on my legs if that makes any sense.
At really low power, I wouldn't make a point of keeping your cadence high - just keep the pedals/drivetrain engaged, spinning slow and easy. Like, boring and borderline wrong easy. Additional metrics would help, obviously - HR at least, but you could probably grab a left crank arm meter for under $300 in the coming weeks. The more time you spend in the saddle, the more important it is to vary the effort, I think. Well, if you want to get faster. Just going off of feel, you seem to settle in to a fairly narrow speed range (a spread of maybe 2mph?) regardless of whether you indicate that your effort was easy, moderate or hard. On my shorter rides, I can see a spread of 5mph between easy and hard.
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I donít really ever go easy, Iím not disciplined enough to sit and spin around in z2, especially in the trainer
I couldn't really do it until I made a decision to ride every day, regardless of how much I hurt, and boy did I have some hurty days. I quickly found that those easy days helped me recover more than taking the day off, but I'm sure that mileage varies. On my normal 3 day/week riding schedule, I probably wouldn't have the discipline to go easy... but then again, on that schedule, I don't think that I'd have the need to go easy.
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Honestly. Z2 is boring. Z3 and Z4 is where the fun starts.
Agree on both points, but enduring boredom is worth it if it helps push your z3 and z4 higher.
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There is no such thing as an outdoor Z1-2 ride if you live in hilly terrain and have a FTP < 4W/kg. I donít even think about it anymore.
Oh, I know - I'm fat and there's no such thing as an easy hill, but I think that my ~18mile recovery route is something like 200' of gain, though I do struggle to keep my HR under 110 on that one bridge.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
I could do it here if I had ridiculous gears and didnít mind poking along alone at 7 mph, but thatís not what I ride for. Also, at age 64 with a job, slow distance is a waste of time. Data suggest old people need lots of VO2max and threshold training and it certainly works for me.
Same here, Iíd rather almost puke from the effort of a hill than take it slow.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
I couldn't really do it until I made a decision to ride every day, regardless of how much I hurt, and boy did I have some hurty days. I quickly found that those easy days helped me recover more than taking the day off, but I'm sure that mileage varies. On my normal 3 day/week riding schedule, I probably wouldn't have the discipline to go easy... but then again, on that schedule, I don't think that I'd have the need to go easy.
I donít take many days off, especially after big efforts, because I come back stiff. I also seem fairly tolerant of 700-800 TSS/wk, which, it seems, most people at my age and crappy performance level arenít.
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Pushing the envelop.

https://www.strava.com/activities/4371775632

Zero flybys.

Also, what was with all the traffic this afternoon/evening?
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