Original Primer 70s/80s Colnagos in repaint?
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Original Primer 70s/80s Colnagos in repaint?
I am stripping my 2nd Colnago frame. It had to be done, the paint is ancient, in fair shape, but I am tired of looking at a grail colnago painted semi- "Celeste" green.
But here's the thing. I stripped a Colnago "Mexico" a few years ago, only to find the primer under the chromo-velato layer was an ivory colored nightmare. Stripping it took forever. I'm a stubborn SOB. Getting the last of it out of lugs and the bb area almost made me list the frame "unpainted, partly cleaned". So surprise here's that darned ivory primer again. This time I'm not trying to remove it. It sticks to the steel like it's anodised. Has anyone come across this primer. True ivory color. The minute I saw it, I knew it was the same stuff I encountered 4 years ago.
I have redone a number of frames, including the old imron down to steel. This is the first time I am not going down to bare steel. After cleaning and prepping the frame to a surface I am satisfied with, I will hit it with a light coat of anti-rust primer and then color decals and 2k clear coat. Anyone have experience with this approach, and getting GOOD results? This ain't no beater.
Colors are way off. Notice I can even separate paint from primer with razor after soaking with \"Goof Off", even though this was a remarkably tough paint job.
But here's the thing. I stripped a Colnago "Mexico" a few years ago, only to find the primer under the chromo-velato layer was an ivory colored nightmare. Stripping it took forever. I'm a stubborn SOB. Getting the last of it out of lugs and the bb area almost made me list the frame "unpainted, partly cleaned". So surprise here's that darned ivory primer again. This time I'm not trying to remove it. It sticks to the steel like it's anodised. Has anyone come across this primer. True ivory color. The minute I saw it, I knew it was the same stuff I encountered 4 years ago.
I have redone a number of frames, including the old imron down to steel. This is the first time I am not going down to bare steel. After cleaning and prepping the frame to a surface I am satisfied with, I will hit it with a light coat of anti-rust primer and then color decals and 2k clear coat. Anyone have experience with this approach, and getting GOOD results? This ain't no beater.
Colors are way off. Notice I can even separate paint from primer with razor after soaking with \"Goof Off", even though this was a remarkably tough paint job.
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I have seen the same white primer on a 1991 I bought, Frans Maassen's Wordperfect Team Master. I expected patina from a racing season but the odd thing is the scrapes are all only down to the white primer, everywhere. Having 2 other team bikes, Pinarello's, this was a surprise. Not wanting to repaint but not liking the white against the original dark blue paint.
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Here are some links to my old Colnago on RoadBikeReview.
https://forums.roadbikereview.com/co...ml#post4638268
For some reason the photos aren't showing up without going to them. ???
I bought the bike in 1982, but trying to date it, I think it was probably from 1968/1969.
I'm pretty sure it has "Factory Paint" on it, but the logos are more consistant with an early 70's Colnago than a late 60's Colnago.
I vaguely remember a mention of a repaint when I bought it, but that has been a half a lifetime ago, so I can't say for sure.
You can see 3 distinct layers of paint where it has been rubbed on the top tube from standing hill climbs.
Blue top coat
White Middle coat
Burgandy lower coat.
It is unclear if this was due to painting over the white, or if the white was applied as a base coat for contrast.
The bike has gone through more evolution since those photos were taken.
https://forums.roadbikereview.com/co...ml#post4638268
For some reason the photos aren't showing up without going to them. ???
I bought the bike in 1982, but trying to date it, I think it was probably from 1968/1969.
I'm pretty sure it has "Factory Paint" on it, but the logos are more consistant with an early 70's Colnago than a late 60's Colnago.
I vaguely remember a mention of a repaint when I bought it, but that has been a half a lifetime ago, so I can't say for sure.
You can see 3 distinct layers of paint where it has been rubbed on the top tube from standing hill climbs.
Blue top coat
White Middle coat
Burgandy lower coat.
It is unclear if this was due to painting over the white, or if the white was applied as a base coat for contrast.
The bike has gone through more evolution since those photos were taken.
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I have seen the same white primer on a 1991 I bought, Frans Maassen's Wordperfect Team Master. I expected patina from a racing season but the odd thing is the scrapes are all only down to the white primer, everywhere. Having 2 other team bikes, Pinarello's, this was a surprise. Not wanting to repaint but not liking the white against the original dark blue paint.
Btw, if you can do a color match (or find someone who can) for the dark blue, usually not too hard to touch up (with practice almost to the point of invisibility). It's having to do primer, then color, that makes it harder.
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I have a Basso that had what you described, I hot sanded it with a fairly coarse sandpaper and paint stripper. That was enough to get the stripper going, stripper by itself was not effective enough.
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When I'm in doubt, I pause, eventually I sometimes repaint.
Not that I'm a strict originalist or anything, and certainly not a Colnago nut, but the old man himself may have put a torch to that bike. Even without, (maybe even likely given his phenomenal marketing work), apparently that's a first year Super. I guess that oiled rust is a form of protective coating, but don't let it get any deeper, there probably aren't too many of them left in the world. Not that the world needs any more of them than it needs another cute kitten photo, but even so. I do agree with your linked posts, pretty is good but riding is better. I like bikes with stories attached too, though.
Cheers, Eric
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