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Old 07-21-18, 09:00 AM
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1983 Nishiki Olympic 12

I snagged this guy recently. Previous owner repacked BB and hubs, new chain etc. I put a new seat, bar tape, clips etc.

Curious on what would be a fair asking price if I were to sell it in the future. It rides well, just not in love with it.

Kawamura - made in Japan
Champion #5 frame
Diacomp brakes and levers
non matching Suntour ARX RD / Shimano 105 FD
Suntour cyclone symmetric shifters

The zip ties are for the cyclometer that I may not keep, hence why I haven’t taken the time to trim.


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Feel free to low ball appraisal, to force me to keep it.
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It's a nice, well built and decent performing model but nothing special. Negatives are plain gauge tubing and and 27" rims. I reckon it's ~$150-$175.
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Put some Compass tires on it and see how it does. Or even Paselas. They might improve the bike’s feel enough to make it worth keeping.
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T-Mar , 07-21-18 12:24 PM
It's a nice, well built and decent performing model but nothing special. Negatives are plain gauge tubing and and 27" rims. I reckon it's ~$150-$175.
Thanks for the appraisal. Champion #5 is on lower end of the Tange tubing am I correct?

Other than not being the standard 700c, what makes 27” wheels a negative? Compatibly? Or is handling better with 700c?

I’ve only ever ridden on 27” so I have no basis for comparison.
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Put some Compass tires on it and see how it does. Or even Paselas. They might improve the bike’s feel enough to make it worth keeping.
I don’t think compass makes 27” tires do they?

Im not actively looking to sell. But I don’t have a lot of storage. So, if I found something else that piqued my interest it would probably have to go. Or...buy a house with more storage space.
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I don’t think compass makes 27” tires do they?
Ah, no. Sorry. But Paselas are made in 27 “ versions.

I hear you about the need for storage . . . My own collection is space-limited.
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Ah, no. Sorry. But Paselas are made in 27 “ versions.
Cool, I’ll check them out. Thanks!

The bike currently has two mismatched tires that were put on before I bought it. It has already been bugging the perfectionist in me.

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Originally Posted by Raleigh74


Thanks for the appraisal. Champion #5 is on lower end of the Tange tubing am I correct?

Other than not being the standard 700c, what makes 27” wheels a negative? Compatibly? Or is handling better with 700c?

I’ve only ever ridden on 27” so I have no basis for comparison.
Tange #5 wasthe lowest and heaviest of Tange's , seamless, CrMo tubesets. When they introduced their less expensive seamed tubesets, they didn't bother with a new version of #5 . Also, while the frame is Tange #5 , I believe it is only in the main triangle, with hi-tensile steel being sued for the stays and forks.

The main advantage of 700C is the more diverse tyre selection. However, due to the slightly smaller diameter they are also lighter, so they accelerate and decelerate quicker, with the effect being magnified by the even greater difference in tyre mass. They also build into slighter stronger wheels and the typically smaller frame clearances result in shallower drop calipers which are stiffer and have a higher mechanical advantage for more powerful braking. Some riders find there to be a noticeable difference while others do not.
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Give it a hundred miles or so. Those Nishiki's will grow on you.
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Tange #5 wasthe lowest and heaviest of Tange's , seamless, CrMo tubesets. When they introduced their less expensive seamed tubesets, they didn't bother with a new version of #5 . Also, while the frame is Tange #5 , I believe it is only in the main triangle, with hi-tensile steel being sued for the stays and forks.

The main advantage of 700C is the more diverse tyre selection. However, due to the slightly smaller diameter they are also lighter, so they accelerate and decelerate quicker, with the effect being magnified by the even greater difference in tyre mass. They also build into slighter stronger wheels and the typically smaller frame clearances result in shallower drop calipers which are stiffer and have a higher mechanical advantage for more powerful braking. Some riders find there to be a noticeable difference while others do not.
That makes sense, thanks for the info. From what I’ve read, most manufacturers only used 27” for the US market back in the day. I wonder why. I had always thought 700c was a much newer standardization.
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Give it a hundred miles or so. Those Nishiki's will grow on you.
Will do, I really haven’t put too many miles on it since the saddle and seat post swap. The seat post when I bought it was incorrect, very short and unable to raise much without running out of post.
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