How do you guys balance riding with rest days?
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Wow, ok. Got it. No rest days it is. I guess I'll just power through the soreness. Those of you who ride everyday, do your legs acclimate and the soreness goes away after a while? or if it hurts do you just do an easy day?
I like the ideas of digital nannies, though I would need some equipment I guess. I don't even have a bike computer.
I like the ideas of digital nannies, though I would need some equipment I guess. I don't even have a bike computer.
I started getting flu-like symptoms a couple of weeks ago on a regular basis (like once or twice a week for a few weeks). I honestly thought I was getting sick on a day (especially with all this CV madness), would get freaked out, and rest up. The next day I was fine. This happened a few times until I found out it was my body being fatigued from riding too much (and not getting enough sleep). I started reading up and listening to a few podcasts (TrainerRoad seems pretty informative... keeping in mind they do run a business... but they still have some good information).
One of the things you can do is start monitoring your resting heart rate on a daily basis. If all things are kept equal (which is rarely the case, but if you understand the concept, it is useful), you can watch your RHR and if it's higher than normal, you need a rest/recovery day.
There is something called a Training Stress Score, which quantifies the level of stress you put on your body from working out. You can use that (along with a few other metrics) to figure out how hard you can go on a weekly basis and this may help get you to a place where you can ride as often as you like.
The point of all of this is we are bad judges of perceived exertion. Some of us are lucky and have genes (or enough experience) that let us ride 5 hours, drink a few beers, and go back out the next day... most of us don't .
Short term fatigue is easy to sense; long term fatigue is not (if you aren't familiar with what to look for).
I'm coming off 3 days' rest because my knee was "burning" wtf? (turns out it's something called patellofemoral pain syndrome... in my case from overdoing it).
Oh well, in the end, I can say this... no matter how many rest days I need, cycling is still a lot less damaging than running (and more fun).
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You don't have to ride every day, but you should expect to be sore and still ride through it sometimes. You have to push your body harder if you want to get fitter, but resting is how your body actually adapts.
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Wow, ok. Got it. No rest days it is. I guess I'll just power through the soreness. Those of you who ride everyday, do your legs acclimate and the soreness goes away after a while? or if it hurts do you just do an easy day?
I like the ideas of digital nannies, though I would need some equipment I guess. I don't even have a bike computer.
I like the ideas of digital nannies, though I would need some equipment I guess. I don't even have a bike computer.
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Thanks for all the opinions. I actually took 2 days in a row off due to rain, then went for a long ride yesterday. I felt unbelievable, significantly fresher than I have since I started. I went up hills faster than I ever have and didn't even push myself that hard. And I'm barely sore today. I guess that's one way to learn that rest days are necessary in my current position!
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What is this “rest day” of which you speak?
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You have to do what works best for you. Try riding everyday with some short super easy days. If after a few weeks, you find yourself too fatigued, try adding a rest day completely off the bike.
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When I lived in Connecticut, I loved pizza. Now I barely ever eat the stuff. People out here think I'm a snob about it, how much better could New York (and surrounding) pizza really be than microwaved cardboard?
But the Mexican food makes up for it, especially the tacos.
But the Mexican food makes up for it, especially the tacos.
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When I lived in Connecticut, I loved pizza. Now I barely ever eat the stuff. People out here think I'm a snob about it, how much better could New York (and surrounding) pizza really be than microwaved cardboard?
But the Mexican food makes up for it, especially the tacos.
But the Mexican food makes up for it, especially the tacos.
Wait, which part of CT were you in?
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Lebanon, Columbia, and Hampton. Kind of in the middle. But a lot of family in Stamford, and the pizza got better on that end. And then more family in Long Island, don't get me started.
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When I lived in Connecticut, I loved pizza. Now I barely ever eat the stuff. People out here think I'm a snob about it, how much better could New York (and surrounding) pizza really be than microwaved cardboard?
But the Mexican food makes up for it, especially the tacos.
But the Mexican food makes up for it, especially the tacos.
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Lebanon? I live within a stone's throw of Uncle D's and across the street from the Liberty Hill Plant Farm. Love Lebanon.
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I've been a bike commuter most of my life, 50-100 miles a week, so I'm not new to biking. Since Covid hit, I started taking up riding for exercise as my other activities got shut down and I don't have much else to do. I find when I ride really hard, which is most of the time, I'm almost too sore to ride again the next day. Sometimes for 2 days even. I'm not trying to get faster particularly, I just feel like if I'm out for exercise, I might as well go as hard as I can. I've been riding about 200 miles a week, but I'm not sure if riding while I'm really sore is doing more harm than good. I've tried to take it easy on some days, but it's almost impossible. I also get bored.
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I do also tend to ride recovery on days that are 'rest' days, but depending on how I feel, how stressful work was, I might just decide to be lazy and just stay home. Is that really a problem for people to not go out and ride?
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Riding frequency largely depends on age. When I was a young man I could ride longer distances almost everyday without a problem, but now at 72 I do need rest days. I try to ride at least 20 miles every other day, but the weather here in Montana frequently stops me from following that schedule. So I ride when I can, but rarely over 20 miles and rarely on consecutive days. Once summer arrives, if it ever does, I'll get in some 30-40 mile rides, but I need warm, comfortable weather for that. Three rides a week are comfortable for me. I should ad that these are leisurely rides, no 20mph averages or really anything close to that. In fact, I no longer read the average speed on my cycle computer.
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This seems like a good volume and appropriate amount of rest for me to keep steadily improving without overdoing it. Usually on my third day in a row of riding, I'm notably less fresh than day one-- though this is muuuuch less of a problem than it used to be, and improving all the time. Today is actually my rest day and I could totally go rip off a ride, but I'd rather rest up so I can go out there and push harder on Friday.
Your mileage, inexorably, will vary.
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My motto is "set targets, not goals." If my goal for the day was something like 30 miles or 1,500ft of elevation, I'll easily go out and do 40 miles with 2,300ft and feel like I did great, because I killed both of those goals. Then I pay for it the next day. So I set a target of 30 miles-- and try as hard as I can to pull back into the driveway right when the miles tick over from 29.9 to 30.0. You don't necessarily have to limit your intensity, if you limit the duration. You just need to cut back on one or the other.
Moderation is hard-- I need as many digital nannies as possible to keep me from overdoing it. I give myself arbitrary kJ limits, max HR limits, mileage or elevation targets, etc. Keeps it interesting.
Moderation is hard-- I need as many digital nannies as possible to keep me from overdoing it. I give myself arbitrary kJ limits, max HR limits, mileage or elevation targets, etc. Keeps it interesting.
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I was in the first class to start and graduate from Lyman. I used to live on Gates Road. I'd ride mediocre kid bikes past this spot we called Seven Ponds, aka Bogg ... Lane I think? Pretty farmland with rolling hills, not too far from the town green. I haven't been back in a long, long time.
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We call it Monday mountain hangover. Even if no alcohol was involved, too much exhaustion can give you the same symptoms.
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Lol, ok, good point. But in any case, it seems that you have learned the value of rest days.
The TL;Dr is - riding lots creates stress on your muscles and cardiovascular system. Rest is when your body adapts to this stress and becomes stronger/fitter.
If you dont stress your systems enough, you dont create enough of a stimulus to adapt. If you dont get enough rest, you end up overtraining/being fatigued/not actually getting better. Need to balance both. Try and see what works for you and listen to your body.
The TL;Dr is - riding lots creates stress on your muscles and cardiovascular system. Rest is when your body adapts to this stress and becomes stronger/fitter.
If you dont stress your systems enough, you dont create enough of a stimulus to adapt. If you dont get enough rest, you end up overtraining/being fatigued/not actually getting better. Need to balance both. Try and see what works for you and listen to your body.
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just ride. your body will tell you whether to go slow or fast or some unstable incestuous blend. embrace it.
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If I am feeling sore I can usually power through it. If I am fatigued, lethargic or drained then I take the day off. It depends on how much I have ridden in the days prior, my sleep quality and how busy I am with other obligations.
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I was in the first class to start and graduate from Lyman. I used to live on Gates Road. I'd ride mediocre kid bikes past this spot we called Seven Ponds, aka Bogg ... Lane I think? Pretty farmland with rolling hills, not too far from the town green. I haven't been back in a long, long time.
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