Campagnolo Record Hubs (Flamesuit On!)
08-02-13, 09:03 AM
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I ought to change the title of this thread to...
"Custom Wheelset Help for 240 lb-er"
Sorry, if this topic has completely gone off track but I'm definitely going to go with something that is Shimano compatible out of the box. The guys at my LBS and the people I race with have me convinced on the R45s and I'm willing to pay for the R45s if it's as good as they say it is. It will only take me longer to pay for but I don't mind if they're really that good. Is there any reason for me NOT to go with the R45s with the price not in consideration?
Thank you again for all your help to anyone and everyone that contributed in this thread.
"Custom Wheelset Help for 240 lb-er"
Sorry, if this topic has completely gone off track but I'm definitely going to go with something that is Shimano compatible out of the box. The guys at my LBS and the people I race with have me convinced on the R45s and I'm willing to pay for the R45s if it's as good as they say it is. It will only take me longer to pay for but I don't mind if they're really that good. Is there any reason for me NOT to go with the R45s with the price not in consideration?
Thank you again for all your help to anyone and everyone that contributed in this thread.
You are in a very specialized forum and are associating with people have very strong opinions about their hobby. But the fact is, all things equal, the R45s will do absolutely nothing different/better than 105 hubs for your situation. It's like people who argue that X wheelset will save 10 watts. Those 10 watts are often quoted under the wrong context (like travelling > 30 MPH over 40K, something which most people in this forum cannot do).
08-02-13, 09:12 AM
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The only "real" advantage I can see between something like R45s or Shimano 105's is that the CK hubs are 11 speed compatible. Other than that and the pretty colors you can get, I don't really see any benefits that warrant such a huge price difference between the hubs.
You are in a very specialized forum and are associating with people have very strong opinions about their hobby. But the fact is, all things equal, the R45s will do absolutely nothing different/better than 105 hubs for your situation. It's like people who argue that X wheelset will save 10 watts. Those 10 watts are often quoted under the wrong context (like travelling > 30 MPH over 40K, something which most people in this forum cannot do).
You are in a very specialized forum and are associating with people have very strong opinions about their hobby. But the fact is, all things equal, the R45s will do absolutely nothing different/better than 105 hubs for your situation. It's like people who argue that X wheelset will save 10 watts. Those 10 watts are often quoted under the wrong context (like travelling > 30 MPH over 40K, something which most people in this forum cannot do).
At his size and riding style he's going to cut up the alloy freehub on the R45s. And the geometry of the T11 and the 105s will build a stiffer wheel, which again, given his size, would help.
Why pay more for a wheel that won't be as stiff and will need parts replaced sooner? Because the LBS has them in hand and needs to sell them? It had better be a heck of a deal to pay more for a less-than-optimal solution just because of the CK bling factor.
08-02-13, 09:19 AM
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The only "real" advantage I can see between something like R45s or Shimano 105's is that the CK hubs are 11 speed compatible. Other than that and the pretty colors you can get, I don't really see any benefits that warrant such a huge price difference between the hubs.
You are in a very specialized forum and are associating with people have very strong opinions about their hobby. But the fact is, all things equal, the R45s will do absolutely nothing different/better than 105 hubs for your situation. It's like people who argue that X wheelset will save 10 watts. Those 10 watts are often quoted under the wrong context (like travelling > 30 MPH over 40K, something which most people in this forum cannot do).
You are in a very specialized forum and are associating with people have very strong opinions about their hobby. But the fact is, all things equal, the R45s will do absolutely nothing different/better than 105 hubs for your situation. It's like people who argue that X wheelset will save 10 watts. Those 10 watts are often quoted under the wrong context (like travelling > 30 MPH over 40K, something which most people in this forum cannot do).
08-02-13, 09:19 AM
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The guy who is building the wheelset says it will be ~ $850 for:
- Pacenti SL23 Rims + CK R45s + Sapim Laser Spokes + Brass Nipples + Skewers
The T11s are just about the same price, maybe $50 less. And personally, I'm a sucker for the colors. But based on that price, is that deal good enough to justify the CK Hubs? And from what I've seen, I could switch to the stainless steel freewheel hub but I'm not sure that there's a Ti freewheel hub that exists for CK.
- Pacenti SL23 Rims + CK R45s + Sapim Laser Spokes + Brass Nipples + Skewers
The T11s are just about the same price, maybe $50 less. And personally, I'm a sucker for the colors.
But based on that price, is that deal good enough to justify the CK Hubs? And from what I've seen, I could switch to the stainless steel freewheel hub but I'm not sure that there's a Ti freewheel hub that exists for CK.
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08-02-13, 09:26 AM
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The guy who is building the wheelset says it will be ~ $850 for:
- Pacenti SL23 Rims + CK R45s + Sapim Laser Spokes + Brass Nipples + Skewers
The T11s are just about the same price, maybe $50 less. And personally, I'm a sucker for the colors. But based on that price, is that deal good enough to justify the CK Hubs? And from what I've seen, I could switch to the stainless steel freewheel hub but I'm not sure that there's a Ti freewheel hub that exists for CK.
- Pacenti SL23 Rims + CK R45s + Sapim Laser Spokes + Brass Nipples + Skewers
The T11s are just about the same price, maybe $50 less. And personally, I'm a sucker for the colors.
But based on that price, is that deal good enough to justify the CK Hubs? And from what I've seen, I could switch to the stainless steel freewheel hub but I'm not sure that there's a Ti freewheel hub that exists for CK.
08-02-13, 09:44 AM
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I'm not worried about aerodynamics in these wheels as racing crits, I feel, don't really require much aero if you're the kind of racer I am. Which is, wait in the middle of the field for the sprint if there's a breakaway, just finish it. Lol (Or just try to keep up. ) It seems that the best option for me is 32+ spokes after reading what you guys have said and what 2 of the guys from my LBS that build wheels here in my town have said. And after reviewing on the spokes, I'd have to take you guys's advice on just going with "regular" spokes instead of the CX Rays. Now to make a decision on the hub... 
) It seems that the best option for me is 32+ spokes after reading what you guys have said and what 2 of the guys from my LBS that build wheels here in my town have said. And after reviewing on the spokes, I'd have to take you guys's advice on just going with "regular" spokes instead of the CX Rays. Now to make a decision on the hub... Edit: ^^ That guy, in fact.
08-02-13, 10:24 AM
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But I do agree with Bdop on the Race spokes (or DT Comps).
08-02-13, 10:27 AM
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the only way I would consider 105 hubs is if you have a fleet of 10spd bikes. If you think swapping freehubs is a headache, wait till you try and put 11 cogs on a 105 hub.
08-05-13, 08:14 AM
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Saw my name mentioned and am doing my less frequent visit to BF to see what anyone is sharing.
240lbs...not huge but not small. I feel your pain as I now build more than I ride. I personally am sitting at 230. Ugh. Sucks to type that.
I still ride 24/28, but that's out of habit more than anything. I would not recommend 24/28 to someone my size or larger if they were my customer.
At 240 I would in fact recommend 28/32 as a minimum. Race or DT comps. Not Lasers or revs. That's just silly. A handful of weight on what will be a mid-weight set anyway.
Going with a Shimano hub setup is fine. They are really heavy though in comparison to just about everything else on the market. T11's on Pacenti in 28/32 should be under $600. If I had to build a set for myself right now...that is what I would build.
240lbs...not huge but not small. I feel your pain as I now build more than I ride. I personally am sitting at 230. Ugh. Sucks to type that.
I still ride 24/28, but that's out of habit more than anything. I would not recommend 24/28 to someone my size or larger if they were my customer.
At 240 I would in fact recommend 28/32 as a minimum. Race or DT comps. Not Lasers or revs. That's just silly. A handful of weight on what will be a mid-weight set anyway.
Going with a Shimano hub setup is fine. They are really heavy though in comparison to just about everything else on the market. T11's on Pacenti in 28/32 should be under $600. If I had to build a set for myself right now...that is what I would build.
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