K. Legaspi

This is probably going to be the biggest newbie question in this forum but...

I am planning to get some wheels built and I have an idea of what I want the set up to be.

- Pacenti SL23 Rims
- Campagnolo Record Hubs
- Sapim CX Ray Spokes
- DT Swiss Brass Nipples

My problem is I have a SRAM groupset and I've been researching on ways to be able to use the Campy hubs with a SRAM/Shimano cassette. I have been researching a lot on free hub bodies that are Campy compatible with SRAM/Shimano splines and I have found this:

https://www.glorycycles.com/fucafrbofors.html

And before I get hated on for the SRAMpagnolo or whatever it is, I picked the Campy Record hubs because it is cheaper than DT240s/R45s and from what I've read, perform just as well. If it performs just as well as those 2 highly acclaimed hubs, but cheaper, then why not? I am a broke college student who is trying to find the perfect set up for a good price. And I do realize that the Record hubs only come in 32H which is exactly what I'm looking for.

As far as I can tell, this will work but I am not exactly sure. Can anyone confirm if this free hub body will work with the wheel build I have planned?

Thank you in advance for the patience. Sorry for being a noob.

Don't hate me too much.

Campag4life

As a broke college kid, you should be focused on your studies no. 1 (your dad speaking) and no. 2 chasing women. When you aren't doing either, you should be riding...ride machine built wheels and don't waste your time building wheels. Building wheels is a good thing to do later in life, just not right now. For $300 you can get a solid set of wheels for your SRAM build that will stay in true. So what if they aren't ultra light. I keep up with guys on carbon wheels half my age.
Record hubs are excellent...unfortunately limited to 32 spoke count front and back. Can't help you with cross compatibility because I ride Campy.
Lots of good hubs out there with different spoke count capability.
Most important thing is to get the best GPA for the least amount of effort. If you are an engineering major with your focus on wheel detail, good luck to you.

Hiro11

It's my understanding you have not yet placed this order.

If you are riding Sram, Campy hubs are going to be basically the only option sold anywhere in the world that cause any compatibility problems. They are designed to run on Campy parts, to the extent that Campy actually sells another brand of hubs and wheels (Fulcrum) for the express purpose of Sram/Shim compatibility.

Why are you putting yourself through this? Campy hubs are terrific, but there's nothing uniquely wonderful about them. Why not just make it easy on yourself and pick something good that's Sram compatible right out of the box? DA hubs are awesome, for example.

merlinextraligh

What are your existing wheels, and what are you trying to accomplish with the new set of wheels?

K. Legaspi

I would get some DA hubs but those are almost twice as much as the Record hubs. The DA hubs are even more than the DTs and CKs.

I have Shimano RS-10s. I am quite a heavy rider and race quite often. Whenever I'm out of the saddle, the wheels flex and the brakes rub. They've come untrue a few times already. I'm looking for smooth and fast rolling wheels that are stiff and bomb proof and I believe this set up will do that for me.

achoo

Why the fixation on Campy hubs? If you have and SRAM groupset, that ain't gonna work. The only Campy hubs that works for are the pre-built wheels where you can take a freehub from a Fulcrum 5 (IIRC) and use it on a Campy Khamsin hub. And I'm not sure how good the correlation is for rear hubs between pre-built Campy and Fulcrum wheelsets.

If it's aesthetics, see if you can find a 10-speed White Industries rear hub. Those also have the advantage of a TI freehub.

canam73

What is your price on the Record hubs?

If I was a broke college student looking for 32h hubs I would get Ultegra.

You will never notice the weight unless you are actually looking at a scale and with a little periodic maintenance they will last you far past grad school.

RollCNY

Or down a notch to 105 hubs, and service your own.

PhotoJoe 

How much do you weigh? That can make a big difference in what advice you receive. Not about the hub, but for all the questions you didn't ask for advice on!

If you are a clyde, stop by the Clyde/Athena forum and do some reading. Lots of good advice on wheelsets for us heavier riders over there.

Here's one thread going on now.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...this-wheel-set

K. Legaspi

I weight in at a hefty 240 lbs and race criteriums plenty. I'm looking for a fast rolling wheelset that will withstand a fatty sprint and rough roads. The reason I ask about the Record hubs is because I am fairly certain they are of same quality and performance as DT240s, R45s, T11s, DA, etc etc without having to dish out for the price of DT240s, R45s, T11s, DA, etc etc. The Record is around the same weight as well. Maybe less than others.

I like what I've read about the Record hubs but I'm not fixed on getting these specific hubs. No, it's not for aesthetics. I just saw them as a comparison to what seems to be the standard which are the DT240s, R45s, T11s, DA, etc etc. Why not the 105? Because from what I read, it doesn't perform like the hubs I mentioned above.

The point of this whole thread was to question whether or not that the Fulcrum free hub body I linked above will work with the Campy Record hub. Now, I understand that some may think I'm some "Campy for some bling" fan boy but I'm not. If I was then I'd be buying a Campy groupset rather than just using the hubs. I'm trying to get the best bang for my buck and the set up I have listed is what I sought to be pretty good value for the money. For the listed set up above, I could get for much less than $800.

Thank you for all your suggestions though, they are much appreciated. I'll definitely look into it. But if someone has a definite answer to my question, it'd be even better!

Bah Humbug

The assumptions were because you were focused on a very odd set of hubs for someone running S gear. I don't think it's just a choice between expensive DTSwiss/DA hubs and Record, either. What about White Industries T11, or Novatec?

K. Legaspi

I'll definitely look into the T11. Thank you. If someone has a definite answer to the OP then it'd be much appreciated.

Just to be clear though, if these "Campagnolo Record" hubs were branded "Origin8," I'd still be asking the same question given that they performed the same way. Lol.

justkeepedaling

Go for any Shimano hub 105 level or up

Bob Dopolina 

IIRC, the free hub from the fulcrum line can be installed on the record hubs. Just remember to get the spacer that is underneath the free hubs as well.

32h seems like a good option for you.

There are other hubs on the market that should work just as we'll for your application. Do some shopping.

RollCNY

The freehub you linked says 11 speed. There are 8/9/10 speed shimano freehubs for Fulcrum wheels for half that price on Total Cycling. I do not know if they are Record compatible, but if Bob is right, I'd go that way. They are listed under wheels-Road-Campagnolo

https://www.totalcycling.com/a-z/whee...reehub_S9.html

Edit: oops, $80, the lower end ones are less.

Dean V

How about using the Record hubs with a Campy cassette and a J-tek shiftmate to solve the compatability problem.

K. Legaspi

Thank you for the responses, everyone. I really appreciate it.

I'll definitely keep this set up in mind as my wheel builder just offered me an irresistible deal on a Pacenti SL23 + CK R45 + CX Rays for a couple bills more than the record, so I'll wait a bit longer for less trouble. Lol.

Thanks for the responses everyone. I might suggest the Record setup for my dad who actually has Campy stuff. Lol.

Happy riding and cheers!

Dan333SP

Kevin, ride your bike more and worry about wheels less. Boom, called out.

Also, the Internet is weird sometimes, I was reading this and thinking "that sounds like a guy I know!". Come race with us on Sunday at BP.

Dan M.

K. Legaspi

Haha, what's up, Dan?

Haven't you noticed how much I've been trying to ride my bike lately? Slowly coming back, my friend. I've also wanted wheels since last season and have been trying to find the perfect set. It's more of a want than a need for sure but I think it's time I pulled the trigger.

And besides, my current wheels are legitimately hindering my performance. Lol. Not a fan of the wheel flex when I'm off the saddle and the wheels start rubbing brakes.

thirdgenbird

There is no compatibility issue.

Campagnolo has been selling shimano compatible freehub bodies for a very long time. Longer than fulcrum has been around. I believe they also had their shimano 11spd freehub body to market before shimano had their own 11spd hubs avalible.

I'm not saying its the best option, but you will be far for the first person to intentionally use record hubs with sram or shimano. As a manner of fact, I saw two used sets for sale with shimano freehubs in the last month.

its not the cheapest option (I would look at the t11) but there is no need to call it a compatability issue:
https://mikesbikes.com/product/fulcru...9854-qc129.htm

it was previously sold in a Campagnolo box part FH-BUU015X1


edit:
I missed the link in the original post, yes that is the one you want if going this route. For what its worth, the record hubs are fantastic. I prefer the look othe the previous silver ones, but the black ones perform just the same (same internals) and weigh less.

Bah Humbug

I didn't say it wouldn't work; I said it was very odd. Which it is.

thirdgenbird

I will give you that. I shouldn't have quoted you on that. If Campagnolo sold the hubs with the shimano body already installed (reducing the price $100+) I think it would be a very reasonable option. You are basically getting a dura ace level hub that leaves the window open for Campagnolo compatability.

Hiro11

Just get Ultegra hubs like everyone else and call it a day.

achoo

Chris King R45s are great hubs, but at your weight and racing style (crits), I'd go for a hub with a steel or titanium freehub body. And I don't think CK hubs have that - I'm pretty sure they're alloy (aluminum) freehubs. AFAIK the only hubs with TI freehub body are Shimano Dura Ace and White Industries.

And are you sure you want to pay extra for CX Rays? https://www.novemberbicycles.com/blog...s-cx-rays.html

You might be able to get your wheels now if if go with White Industries hubs and standard double-butted spokes instead of CX Rays.

achoo

If you're going to go that route, just get 105s. They're just about identical to the Ultegras.