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Old 12-03-23, 07:02 AM
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Did the trainer thing this morning. Garmin fitness test with emphasis of 10 mins at zone 4. Since I was using the garmin to control the wahoo power seemed to stabilize at 234 watts. Man that was hard. In a race or group ride it so much easier to hold that than alone on the trainer. I was able to complete the test which made me feel pretty good.

No way the miles are correct. Garmin had me doing 25 mph at 156 watts. I wish that was correct.

Only thing I will say about the trainer, I had to do a 20 min warm up at 156 watts. My HR outside at 156 watts is 125 or less. On the trainer it was 140. Def felt harder than 156 watts.

New wheels are sweet, wife said I could put them on the bike but I have no sealant and I am getting pair of schwalbe gr one, trying to determine if I should just wait to mount those or go ahead and put the WTB exposures on.


She’s planning on some epic gravel ride for my birthday
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I believe that’s true. In the USA commercial eggs must be washed and that removes the protective layer and that’s why they must be refrigerated. In other countries they are kept at room temperature so you see them at the grocery store on regular shelves.
My brother has 6 hens for egg production. He gets a certain type that are real productive for a decent amount of time usually 1 a day each. Can't remember the name. It's enough to supply my sister and other brother as well. 42 eggs a week is a lot. I think I had some while I was up north recently.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Did the trainer thing this morning. Garmin fitness test with emphasis of 10 mins at zone 4. Since I was using the garmin to control the wahoo power seemed to stabilize at 234 watts. Man that was hard. In a race or group ride it so much easier to hold that than alone on the trainer. I was able to complete the test which made me feel pretty good.

No way the miles are correct. Garmin had me doing 25 mph at 156 watts. I wish that was correct.

Only thing I will say about the trainer, I had to do a 20 min warm up at 156 watts. My HR outside at 156 watts is 125 or less. On the trainer it was 140. Def felt harder than 156 watts.

New wheels are sweet, wife said I could put them on the bike but I have no sealant and I am getting pair of schwalbe gr one, trying to determine if I should just wait to mount those or go ahead and put the WTB exposures on.


She’s planning on some epic gravel ride for my birthday
Do you have crank or pedal based power on your road bike? Do you have the option to use the same meter? The HR disparity is pretty big, so I think that either the meters are not aligned, or you have a cooling problem. You need fans even in a relatively cold garage.
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Lilly up a bit early this morning (2a Pacific), she usually goes to between 4 and 6. Hopefully she can make it all the way to her 7 / 7:30 "good morning" feed after this, but we'll see. She did have an extremely wet diaper so maybe that's why she woke up and started fussin'
Nope, back up at 5:30 AM. Hopefully this is just a little blip on the radar and not some larger phase. She had been inching towards sleeping through the night, and usually only getting up once for the last few weeks (she's 8.5 weeks old).
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Dropping a deuce is what has become good news in my life. Sad.
What about the ongoing restoration of your northern neighbours from an arid desert to a lush valley again?


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Originally Posted by TMonk
Do you have crank or pedal based power on your road bike? Do you have the option to use the same meter? The HR disparity is pretty big, so I think that either the meters are not aligned, or you have a cooling problem. You need fans even in a relatively cold garage.

I do not currently have a power meter on this bike. I also did not have a fan on in the beginning of the workout. Maybe that’s the problem.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Nope, back up at 5:30 AM. Hopefully this is just a little blip on the radar and not some larger phase. She had been inching towards sleeping through the night, and usually only getting up once for the last few weeks (she's 8.5 weeks old).
our blip on the radar lasted weeks kid #2 had mild case of reflux (or something related)

once we got past that we were good to go … sorta / kinda … that kid could then sleep almost anytime anywhere
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Do you have crank or pedal based power on your road bike? Do you have the option to use the same meter? The HR disparity is pretty big, so I think that either the meters are not aligned, or you have a cooling problem. You need fans even in a relatively cold garage.

I do not currently have a power meter on this bike. I also did not have a fan on in the beginning of the workout. Maybe that’s the problem.
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Originally Posted by t2p


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Originally Posted by t2p
what type of rim tape ?

I still use velox - but appears that stuff is now old school (?)
Some cheesy crap that came with the bike (Creo). Maybe they didn't clean the surface but the tape wouldn't stay put. I think he figured it out after the third flat.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
also RE: eggs, I thought that they didn't need to get refrigerated straight outta the hen, since they have some sort of protective film. The film gets rinsed off in the cartons that make it to the store. Or something like that, I think that's what I've been told,
yes - that is what I was informed

and for a long time I purchased the eggs that sat on tables unrefrigerated (or in portable cooler with no ice)

but for whatever reason at one point the flea market (and / or FDA food safety / inspectors ?) had issue with the storage of the eggs

also often purchase vegetables at these same local flea markets … much of the produce is organic or very close - but not certified … no pesticides are used - instead they use something else - maybe tobacco leaves or ground tobacco leaves or something like that ?

( so we will prob die from something related to that stuff )

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yikes

nirvana mtv unplugged (‘unplugged’)

one of my fav live performance videos (entire show)


https://youtu.be/OgeR2oqZGTs?si=7KHdIc11sgzodzkJ
Another good one was Alice in Chains unplugged. I've always liked "playing in" type intros. Jerry Cantrell starts it off, then Mike Inez adds the really well recorded acoustic bass. A clean looking Layne Staley enters to applause that hides the fact he was tripping bigly.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
I have velox on a few rims downstairs, I think there may be fancier/lighter solutions for tubes wheels, but w/e
I've used Velox since the 80s but my lbs sold me an American brand which is at least as good. Can't remember the name but next time I get a flat I can check.

Mountain bike came with thin plastic tape for tubeless. I still use tubes and the tape is the full width of the rim, the bead sits on the tape. This makes getting the tire off into an ordeal.
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Some cheesy crap that came with the bike (Creo). Maybe they didn't clean the surface but the tape wouldn't stay put. I think he figured it out after the third flat.
recently had a heckuva time with 650b tubeless ready tires / rims with tubes install - really really tight (and now I officially despise anything tubeless lol)

I’ve had snug or even tight before - but these were ridiculously tight - so I might go away from velox for this one particular bike / set of wheels with something thinner

recent interesting observation related to tape that would not stay put and shifted just enough to expose the spoke holes … possibly rode the bike in this condition for weeks - maybe 10 short rides ?

the Schwalbe Aerothan tpu tube did not flat … fairly certain a butyl tube would have flatted

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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I do not currently have a power meter on this bike. I also did not have a fan on in the beginning of the workout. Maybe that’s the problem.
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I do not currently have a power meter on this bike. I also did not have a fan on in the beginning of the workout. Maybe that’s the problem.
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One from today's KCB concert. Listen at 2:05 for the befuddling (for woodwinds) transition to "Dominick the Donkey"



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Originally Posted by t2p
what type of rim tape ?

I still use velox - but appears that stuff is now old school (?)
I installed some Velox on a set of my wheels just last month.

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You were young once old timer.

Very inconsiderate nonetheless.
I honestly never did that though. I was a quiet one my whole life.
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https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/12967862424#

AG is still out there; just passed 18 miles at a solid 8:00 pace. By the time I eat and brush teeth it'll be time to go wait for her.
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If you want bulletproof rim tape, use medical adhesive tape and then a layer of fiberglass strapping tape. No slippage and the wheel will never need rim tape, again until you have to replace a spoke or rebuild the wheel.

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Winter don’t play, jack.
Also why we're intending to try to fly mostly in the warm months now.
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my outside riding has been dealt a blow..
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I do not currently have a power meter on this bike. I also did not have a fan on in the beginning of the workout. Maybe that’s the problem.
Ya you need fans. Also, if your power targets are on a meter that is reading higher than your trainer, than you need to scale your targets down. Only way to know that is to put the meter that your targets are based on on the trainer so you can dual-record and see both in real time.
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