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Do you favor one foot forward for descending?

Old 03-11-20, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
People still pay attention to downhill road KOMs
In my area -- not many long or steep downhills, but all mostly straight sprints, not winding mountain passes -- KOMs still require pretty hard pedaling. Nobody is coasting to top tens anymore. My bikes currently have 52/13 top gear (old school 7-speed). Even at 120 rpm I'd need a 53/11 top gear to pedal with enough force to crack the top ten.

And pretty much every KOM in my area is wind assisted -- including climbs. That includes my one remaining top ten finish. I've been nudged out of every other top ten the past several months. Check the weather archives against the day/time the riders rode that segment and you'll find many are tailwind assisted, and/or pacelines of 2 or more riders working together and finishing at pretty much the same time. Probably not quite kosher for folks who are serious about Strava but I'm definitely not serious. I get tickled by seeing my name in the top ten where I have absolutely no business. It's only because relatively few riders have tackled that segment. Over time and enough riders I'll drop down to the middle of the pack where I belong.
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Old 03-11-20, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by canklecat
Check the weather archives against the day/time the riders rode that segment and you'll find many are tailwind assisted, and/or pacelines of 2 or more riders working together and finishing at pretty much the same time. Probably not quite kosher for folks who are serious about Strava but I'm definitely not serious..
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Old 03-11-20, 09:38 PM
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Left foot forward for me. Which is odd (I think) because for sports such as football (aka soccer) I kick with my right leg.
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Old 03-11-20, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NoWhammies
Left foot forward for me. Which is odd (I think) because for sports such as football (aka soccer) I kick with my right leg.
See, I'm left handed but kick with my right, descend with my right.
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Old 03-12-20, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
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Hey, Phil Gaimon made a second career out of chasing KOMs. It led to sponsors, international travel and actual money. That's serious.

Me and most locals, not serious. Although one guy I know got seriously upset when his KOM was threatened by a guy who just forget to turn off Strava before driving away. That's way too serious about something that won't stand anyway. At our ages (60+) any KOM only means that segment hasn't been tried by a reasonably fit younger rider. We're at the participation trophy phase of life.
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Originally Posted by canklecat
Hey, Phil Gaimon made a second career out of chasing KOMs. It led to sponsors, international travel and actual money. That's serious.
It just a continuation of his first career, not a second career.


Originally Posted by canklecat
Me and most locals, not serious. Although one guy I know got seriously upset when his KOM was threatened by a guy who just forget to turn off Strava before driving away. That's way too serious about something that won't stand anyway. At our ages (60+) any KOM only means that segment hasn't been tried by a reasonably fit younger rider. We're at the participation trophy phase of life.
the Cat 2 state champ lives about 5 miles from my house, and Brandon McNulty lives about 12 miles away. All but 1 of my KOMs are gone now. I stopped paying any attention to my rides on Strava in 2018.
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Old 03-12-20, 03:23 PM
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Right foot forward. I have noticed in the last few years I do this enough that I find I am tiring that foot and calf out for hold that position so much (I find I press down on the forward foot a lot when coasting like that. Almost like trying to grab your shoe by curling your toes). Enough that I make it a point to switch it up as often as I think about it over the course of a ride. Also so I feel more natural and stable with either foot forward. It's been helping.
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Old 03-12-20, 03:38 PM
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Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but keeping your pedals horizontal on descents, regardless of which foot you favor, give you better control than 6/12 over unexpected road divots.
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Old 03-12-20, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Right foot forward. I have noticed in the last few years I do this enough that I find I am tiring that foot and calf out for hold that position so much (I find I press down on the forward foot a lot when coasting like that. Almost like trying to grab your shoe by curling your toes). Enough that I make it a point to switch it up as often as I think about it over the course of a ride. Also so I feel more natural and stable with either foot forward. It's been helping.
You tire your foot out, on the long descents in your area?

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Old 03-12-20, 05:35 PM
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Left foot forward when I descend, already posted, I realized I kick-double-poll of my left foot too. Right handed though.
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Old 03-12-20, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
You tire your foot out, on the long descents in your area?

#sad
Some of those highway overpasses are no joke. You could climb 20 feet!
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Old 03-12-20, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
You tire your foot out, on the long descents in your area?

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I knew someone was going to do that. I didn't say I was descending....just coasting.... and I'm very out of shape.

Started to notice it a few years back on longer rides. I would just fatigue.
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Old 03-12-20, 07:48 PM
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I haven't thought much about the foot forward. Pedal up for cornering,

I will pinch the knees on occasion which probably means level pedals, so I may well have a foot forward based on the last corner I went around. I'll do some testing shortly.

I don't push crazy downhill Strava segments, but those that are safe enough, I'll pedal like crazy. I did get the gearing and push it up so I was able to spin out at about 54 MPH. Need to work on that one a bit.
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Old 03-12-20, 08:05 PM
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Interesting that you ask this. I took note of this in myself a few years ago – I always defaulted to left foot forward.

I then began to mix in right foot forward coasts.

I also have tended to default to putting the left foot down when stopping. I now mix it up,.

I'm right handed, but for me, it certainly does not mean I naturally tend to put right foot forward or down first.
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Old 03-12-20, 08:33 PM
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I've always coasted left-foot forward, downhill or otherwise. Sheldon Brown claimed that it's slightly less strain on the drive train left forward, which was gratifying to learn if essentially meaningless. It doesn't really matter which IMO but it's best if the pedals are level with the ground.
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Old 03-12-20, 11:00 PM
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Left foot forward. With launching, too.
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Old 03-14-20, 11:43 AM
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For a long, straight drop my default is right foot forward*, with knees gripping the top tube (I had a bouncy scare a few years back).

I mix it up, though. Especially coming out of switchbacks - whatever is more convenient goes forward.

* I take that back! It turns out I default to left foot forward. That makes sense, since I unclip left, and suspected I was goofy footed.

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Old 03-15-20, 09:59 PM
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I’m left forward. I’ve tried to train myself to do right forward as well but it feels incredibly awkward.
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Old 03-16-20, 03:06 PM
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Jumping, curbs, roundabouts, etc Left foot forward, otherwise, mix it up depending on comfort or camber at stops
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