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From a bulldozer to a razor blade

Old 06-24-19, 05:24 PM
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From a bulldozer to a razor blade

Does anyone else who owns both a mtb and a road bike feel like they own a bulldozer and razor blade. Taking corners on my mtb really reminds me of what's, called the dreaded "snow tire effect". Then again hitting a pothole on my mtb is barely noticeable that damn near jars my fillings mode on my road bike. Two different tools for two very different jobs.
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I think it really comes down to tire choice, and bike geometry to a lesser extent. But ya I dig what you're saying. I guess I ride them both often enough so that it doesn't really stand out to me so much.
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What about a bulldozer with razorblades on the front of it?
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I think it really comes down to tire choice, and bike geometry to a lesser extent. But ya I dig what you're saying. I guess I ride them both often enough so that it doesn't really stand out to me so much.
Good tires can make a world of difference. I would describe my mtb as a tank on gravel (esp with knobby tires). Swapped those out for semi-slick tires, and my average mph went up a few mph, and the bike is more fun. Still works for all but the roughest single track. Riding a road bike or track bike definitely has a totally different steering feel. Same for my buddy's niner rlt9 rdo. Definitely not a tank.

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what about a bullet with butterfly wings?
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what about a bullet with butterfly wings?
"Despite of my rage I am still just a rat in a cage."

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Originally Posted by bonsai171 View Post
"Despite of my rage I am still just a rat in a cage."

-Smashing Pumpkins
Not quite-

Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage
Then someone will say what is lost can never be saved
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage
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Never shave with a bulldozer.

And never try to move a pile of dirt with a razor.
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Never shave with a bulldozer.

And never try to move a pile of dirt with a razor.
You'd be surprised by the people that try.
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I think it really comes down to tire choice, and bike geometry to a lesser extent. But ya I dig what you're saying. I guess I ride them both often enough so that it doesn't really stand out to me so much.



I own both to and now hardly ever touch my 42lb clunky, heavy mtb. Although now hitting a pothole or speedbump does seem like its going to jar my fillings loose whereas before I'd hit a bottomless pit pothole and not even notice it. How mtb's gained such popularity that WM is now selling a 2k in-house brand bike is beyond me. Then again the average competitive road cyclist is lightyears in better condition and leaner than the avg mtb competitor.
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Then again the average competitive road cyclist is lightyears in better condition and leaner than the avg mtb competitor.
? ? ? ? ?
Complete and utter nonsense.
When I was racing early NORBA events back when it was 'cross and road riders taking up the new sport of MTB racing with an infusion of BMX talent for leavening and fun.
Where do you think Froome & Sagan developed their early careers? MTB racing.
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....I guess its just me but I LOVE the razor sharp handling of a 23mm tire w/ 100lbs of air in it on an 18lb single speed road bike w/ a 52:16T ratio spinning at 100rpm is as good as life gets. Doing flips over the handlebars down a 30 percent downhill grade hill eating a mouth full of dirt suck sh#@ IMO.
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I own both to and now hardly ever touch my 42lb clunky, heavy mtb. Although now hitting a pothole or speedbump does seem like its going to jar my fillings loose whereas before I'd hit a bottomless pit pothole and not even notice it. How mtb's gained such popularity that WM is now selling a 2k in-house brand bike is beyond me. Then again the average competitive road cyclist is lightyears in better condition and leaner than the avg mtb competitor.

Wow nice attack on the mountain bikers and further creating the B.S. divide that exists. Just because you have a clunky heavy mountain bike doesn't mean that mountain bikes are slower and Wally-Marts Viathlon bikes are still crap but at least are lightyears better than the normal crap shaped like bicycle objects they sell.

You should get a nicer lightweight mountain bike and ride one they are quite nice. Also you should realize that most competitive athletes are in good condition. It is not a this discipline vs. that discipline.
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MTB riders are often very strong on the road, and usually have much better bike handling skills than the average roadie. Just ask Peter Sagan. Or Mathieu van der Poel.

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I'd also like to add that MTB is so diverse. @Hr1 I think you are speaking out on full on downhill (DH) racing, which is pure nerves and skill. On the opposite end of the spectrum you have cross country racing (XC), which has lots of crossover with road and cyclocross and some of the worlds fittest athletes.
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I've seen more stoned MTB riders than roadies, that's for sure.

Where I live there are often riders on the trails like, "Duuuuuuuuuuude... you're riding a drop bar bike on the trail? Noooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!"



Still, I'd really like to get my hands on a Pivot Les or Niner Air 9 RDO.


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There's advantages to both types of bikes. Being able roll right over curbs, thru deep potholes, handle mud that would bury a 25mm tire is great. But so is riding a 17.5lb cycle that can fly around corners and thru traffic that would wreck a mtb is a thrill.
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Takes the right tool for the job! On that note, there are times when I purposely choose to commute to work on my MTB, when my route is only about 50% trail, and all-road on the way back. It's just a more comfortable bike to ride, plus I get to partake in a little "urban assault" with road furniture or short dirt patches adjacent to the road on the way home.

I also take a little bit of guilty pleasure in passing folks on road bikes while on my MTB on the road... I can get truckin' fairly quickly if I get into a low position and turn the screws a bit. Being a competitive fit shaved-legged type helps
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Monk your post instantly made me think of this:

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/mount...-his-hardtail/
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Nice, that's badass!
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Did you guys see this?
Fat tire crit, mountain bikes on slicks.
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I hope that guy is a big dude, b/c the power he is holding between the corners during his winning attack is huge!!! I'm having an inferiority complex rn. Not sure I can do that. He cracks 1300w when launching, which I've never seen - but I'm only 145 lbs.
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