As a pedestrian how do you want to know when being passed?
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A bell is the best way for a cyclist to announce their approach, it is a something which most people are familiar with and understand....Personally I can't stand cyclists who yell "on your left" or yell " bicycle" or yell some other confusing jargon.
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Just a nice protracted cough in my general direction, preferably delivered closer than 6 ft.
But I have to admit "Get the hell out of my way!" has a certain charm to it.
But I have to admit "Get the hell out of my way!" has a certain charm to it.
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As a pedestrian, I stay to the right and don't listen to music or use a phone, so I probably know you are near.... Just pass me with widest berth, safely, and we are all just fine.
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I found a voice to cause people to jump. Where as a bell ding rarely does.
My Go to, is Ring it at a greater distance that should be hear able and give them time to react. and If they don't turn and look it gives me an opportunity to start slowing and ding it again while being closer to them.
I think I may have passed deaf people because 2 bells and nothing so I just slow way down and then wave as I go past. I might have different habits if I was in a more populated area, but I am not.
As a pedestrian.... If you have to do anything I've already failed my situational awareness.
My Go to, is Ring it at a greater distance that should be hear able and give them time to react. and If they don't turn and look it gives me an opportunity to start slowing and ding it again while being closer to them.
I think I may have passed deaf people because 2 bells and nothing so I just slow way down and then wave as I go past. I might have different habits if I was in a more populated area, but I am not.
As a pedestrian.... If you have to do anything I've already failed my situational awareness.
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Anything! Seriously, around here on the river mup the riders zoom past with no warning at all. I emailed the local bike club and they thought I was hilarious for even suggesting such a thing as a little warning.
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when im a pedestrian i want a bicyclist to let me know he is coming up when he is 10+ ft away> @ speed it should be far enough away so as to allow the rider to avoid me ... any sound is ok (bells seem dorky) as long as its far enough back to create space to pass >>> i ride fixed so it easy for me to slow around people but i carry a police whistle just in case the situation presents
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Heh... I have an air horn for just those times. I rarely use it though, unless they seem to be wandering.
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Don’t need to know, just don’t hit me. As for your little bell, I’ve been around jet engines most of my life, so can’t hear it. So on your left works, if you feel the need to announce yourself. Don’t have a dog, and tend to hold my line when I do walk, which is usually only if I have a flat, don’t really enjoy walking all that much.
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I try to stay off the MUPs because of the idiots but when I ride with my wife she prefers them to the road. I will jingle my bell from a good distance back so they know I am approaching then a "Passing on your left. Thank you. Have a nice day." But I am a hell of a nice guy. Not at all like the rest of you clowns.
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This style of bell is what I have gotten the most positive responses from hikers with. Some of the "ping" bells are loud enough to startle hikers as much as yelling on your left. The "ring ring" newsboy bells get lots of smiles and laughs.
This style of bell is what I have gotten the most positive responses from hikers with. Some of the "ping" bells are loud enough to startle hikers as much as yelling on your left. The "ring ring" newsboy bells get lots of smiles and laughs.
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As a pedestrian I would like as much advanced warning as possible.
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As a pedestrian how do you want to know when being passed?
A seeming vast percentage of pedestrians loll about on multi-person, multi-use paths, as though nobody's going to be impeded or harmed by their wandering mindlessly across the path randomly. (Same with those with a pet on a leash, while exhibiting zero control over that leash.)
Often and early, loudly enough to be heard. It's what I do for others, passing relatively slowly so nobody feels threatened or surprised. It's what I wish all would do.
That said, I'm relatively easy-going. So long as someone doesn't do the silent-and-within-10-inches pass, and so long as passing isn't done with a 20mph overtaking rate of speed, I'm tolerant enough.
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Before going to bells, I used to shout "on your left." Many people would jump out of their skins even when I shouted from a considerable distance. With a bell, most people do not appear to jump but silently move to the right. Many wave as I pass and some actually say thanks. I usually wave and say thanks as well. When I am walking and a cyclist passes, I much prefer to hear a bell. There is something about a shout that is surprising and alarming.
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If they have a nice bike, I would love to know make and model and drivetrain, so I can likely say "nice ______". Other than that I prefer a nice bell, the original Spurcycle bell is perfect.
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Interesting question with different perspectives. The direct response is a bell is fine as I can hear it from a distance. What I hate is being buzzed by some kitted out roadie trying to establish a PB on a MUP.
Years ago I would have said, I dunno, I don't walk in the street. When I had to take a MUP back then I was ticked, except for the riverbeds, so my disposition was not so friendly. And I'm sure I buzzed a few people.
These days I mostly ride paved, on skinny tires, MUPs as I feel riding on the road is so less safe. Drivers were always pretty bad but now they are over the top distracted. There are rides I used to do I won't do today. But I know where I am on the cycling food chain and will use a bell, maybe on your left, slow down and thank them as I go by. This doesn't mean I won't spin out in wide open places and if it more of a cycling path.
My perspective on hiking/riding trails are a little different as it is the only game in town and I feel I have more of a right to use the trails. I still give hikers the right of way, bell, on your left, slow down, thank you; but I don't feel the stigma when riding them.
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Years ago I would have said, I dunno, I don't walk in the street. When I had to take a MUP back then I was ticked, except for the riverbeds, so my disposition was not so friendly. And I'm sure I buzzed a few people.
These days I mostly ride paved, on skinny tires, MUPs as I feel riding on the road is so less safe. Drivers were always pretty bad but now they are over the top distracted. There are rides I used to do I won't do today. But I know where I am on the cycling food chain and will use a bell, maybe on your left, slow down and thank them as I go by. This doesn't mean I won't spin out in wide open places and if it more of a cycling path.
My perspective on hiking/riding trails are a little different as it is the only game in town and I feel I have more of a right to use the trails. I still give hikers the right of way, bell, on your left, slow down, thank you; but I don't feel the stigma when riding them.
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"On your left" presumes that it's incumbent upon me to get out of your way. This is wrong.
If you are somewhere where you need to pass me, a pedestrian, you should be riding in such a way that you can negotiate that interaction in the same way as another pedestrian. Like waiting your turn, or saying "Excuse me."
Other things like bells & horns are more like a hazard warning, but can be used in a similarly annoying manner.
And if you use that stupid airhorn in my vicinity I will beat you until your cycling days are over.
If you are sharing space with pedestrians, ride gently, so that your behaviour is compatible with the other activity in that place.
Civility, gentlemen, always civility.
If you are somewhere where you need to pass me, a pedestrian, you should be riding in such a way that you can negotiate that interaction in the same way as another pedestrian. Like waiting your turn, or saying "Excuse me."
Other things like bells & horns are more like a hazard warning, but can be used in a similarly annoying manner.
And if you use that stupid airhorn in my vicinity I will beat you until your cycling days are over.
If you are sharing space with pedestrians, ride gently, so that your behaviour is compatible with the other activity in that place.
Civility, gentlemen, always civility.
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not a joke >it's loud enough for any traffic situation ... i should have said coach's whistle ... at least i wasn't shunted to P&R
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When I hear "on your left," as a pedestrian, I assume it to mean someone's "on my left" and coming up behind me on that side of me. Corroborated by hearing the voice or bell from that side, of course. Invariably the case, in my own experience. And so, I've spent years doing much the same.
Helps keep people's thoughts of others on a decent level for next time, as well, building goodwill over time that pays back all.
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I know you're joking, but I ride with an AirZound. Since it is so loud, I can signal a polite toot or two from a great distance away so it's not so loud and scary, and give the pedestrians plenty of time to know I'm coming.
As a pedestrian I would like as much advanced warning as possible.
As a pedestrian I would like as much advanced warning as possible.
This! I have been riding when a single cyclist in front of our group announced loudly to warn a person. The person was so startled, and dropped a bag of groceries, the cyclist hit a can and went down. Announcing well in advance is best for both parties.
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