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Old 09-01-20, 08:54 PM
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What's the process for buying 2nd set of wheels?

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Canyon Ultimate SLX that has non-aero wheels: https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...nfarbe=BK%2FMC

This is a disc-brake bike. At some point I want to buy a set of aero wheels. Since this is a XD-R freehub bike, will it be hard for me to find a XD-R compatible, disc-brake-capable set of CF aero wheels? Is it simply a question of finding SRAM centerline rotors and getting them mounted to a XD-R set of wheels? Is putting these rotors on the wheels something I can do or would a bike shop need to mount and fit the new wheels to my bike?

Overall - just trying to understand if I need to spend an extra $2000 now to buy aero wheels already sold with the bike or if I can "get away" with putting off the aero wheel purchase until a later date without creating a massive headache for myself.

Thanks to all input and opinions.
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Write to Canyon rather than depending on the committee here. When ever I have technical questions, I write to the manufacturer, or true experts like Leonard Zinn and others.
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Your options will probably be more limited, but it's just like buying any other wheelset with a swappable freehub option (Shimano/SRAM 11s, Campy 12, XDR, etc) - it'll come with/be able to take an XDR or it won't; just depends on the manufacturer.

Not surprisingly, when I bought my Zipps (which is owned by SRAM) a couple months ago, they were widely available with XDR but I had to wait to scrounge a pair with a Shimano 11s. I was tempted to buy the XDR version and just swap the freehub body, but that would have been an extra 100 bucks or so.
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Some of the advice I've received here is that I should go 12 speed SRAM as that is more "future proofed" but it seems you are right in that the options are limited today. I'm OK if this is a COVID thing or XDR is just too new, but hope this isn't indicative of what to expect if I buy SRAM over Shimano.

Thanks everyone for your advice.
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If your goal is to be able to easily swap-out the two wheelsets, the job will be easier if the hub, cassette, and brake rotors on both wheel sets are the same brand and models so everything lines-up correctly (or hopefully they will). For the disc rotors, there are shims you can buy so that you can line-up the rotors on each wheel set and not have to adjust your brake pads each time you swap wheels. Likewise, there are shims for the rear cassette so that you don't end-up with a poor shifting when you swap between wheel sets. If you don't want to do the shim thing, start with buying the same brands and models of each part and go from there. In your case, I think Reynolds makes their own hubs, so it'd just be easiest for you to buy another set of Reynolds wheels.
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1) See pretty wheels.
2) Lust after pretty wheels.
3) Purchase pretty wheels.

Most good wheels/ hubs will be able to take XDR drivers, but just make sure.
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Unless you're racing at a high level, aero wheels wheels may just be a waste of money. One of the disadvantages of buying a complete bike, is many included items may not be what you want, like the cassette range, the chain ring sizes, the stem length or bar width and in your case, the non-aero wheels. That's why I build my bikes from the frame up. Each component will be exactly what I want.

I notice that the stem length is only 90 mm and the bar reach only 74 mm, on their bike with my desired stack and reach. I'd need at least 10 mm more stem length, even with my short torso.
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Originally Posted by basscadet
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Canyon Ultimate SLX that has non-aero wheels: https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...nfarbe=BK%2FMC

This is a disc-brake bike. At some point I want to buy a set of aero wheels. Since this is a XD-R freehub bike, will it be hard for me to find a XD-R compatible, disc-brake-capable set of CF aero wheels? Is it simply a question of finding SRAM centerline rotors and getting them mounted to a XD-R set of wheels? Is putting these rotors on the wheels something I can do or would a bike shop need to mount and fit the new wheels to my bike?

Overall - just trying to understand if I need to spend an extra $2000 now to buy aero wheels already sold with the bike or if I can "get away" with putting off the aero wheel purchase until a later date without creating a massive headache for myself.

Thanks to all input and opinions.
Why don't you call them and see if they will upgrade the wheels for you instead of purchasing an entirely different set.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
1) See pretty wheels.
2) Lust after pretty wheels.
3) Purchase pretty wheels.
4) Mock other people's wheels.
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I don't see how there's any additional headache in buying aero wheels later. Everything will fit unless you get "creative" with it. At worst you might need to change the chain length, but just duplicate the cassette to avoid that. Maybe you'd have to adjust the disc brakes?

But if you're for sure going to get them later, why not just configure the new bike that way now?
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Typically if you buy the version of the bike with the stuff you want, you'll be dollars to the good, instead of upgrading after the fact.

However if you get the non-aero wheels and ride them for few thousand miles and record all your ride data, then get some aero wheels, you'll be able to see what they do for you.

If you ride less than 40 miles per ride, then maybe not so much difference to be worth the expense, IMO. Unless you are ultra competitive looking at every last second on every segment of your rides.
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Originally Posted by basscadet
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Canyon Ultimate SLX that has non-aero wheels: https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...nfarbe=BK%2FMC

This is a disc-brake bike. At some point I want to buy a set of aero wheels. Since this is a XD-R freehub bike, will it be hard for me to find a XD-R compatible, disc-brake-capable set of CF aero wheels? Is it simply a question of finding SRAM centerline rotors and getting them mounted to a XD-R set of wheels? Is putting these rotors on the wheels something I can do or would a bike shop need to mount and fit the new wheels to my bike?

Overall - just trying to understand if I need to spend an extra $2000 now to buy aero wheels already sold with the bike or if I can "get away" with putting off the aero wheel purchase until a later date without creating a massive headache for myself.

Thanks to all input and opinions.
Why not just buy an Aeroad for similar price?

https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...nfarbe=SR%2FBK

At only 0.5 kg heavier it seems like a reasonable choice.
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Originally Posted by jadocs
Why don't you call them and see if they will upgrade the wheels for you instead of purchasing an entirely different set.
When I bought my Canyon road bike at the beginning of summer, their FAQ page stated clearly that they don't do customization. You are expected to buy what they have in-stock, as-is.

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4) Mock other people's wheels.
5. Post in here, asking if you got a good deal.
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I'm seeing limited availability of many models and sizes. Not great if you can't buy what you want. Same goes for the equipment. If many parts are not what you need, it's not a good deal.
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5. Post in here, asking if you got a good deal.
6) Post that you are 2 mph faster with the new wheels.
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Originally Posted by BoraxKid
Why not just buy an Aeroad for similar price?

https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...nfarbe=SR%2FBK

At only 0.5 kg heavier it seems like a reasonable choice.
I'm not opposed to the Aeroad, I think it looks great. Just intimidated by the geometry and how goofy an amateur might look on such a racy bike. I'm pretty fit and flexible, but my FTP is south of 300.
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Originally Posted by basscadet
I'm not opposed to the Aeroad, I think it looks great. Just intimidated by the geometry and how goofy an amateur might look on such a racy bike. I'm pretty fit and flexible, but my FTP is south of 300.
I doubt you'll look any worse than anyone else on their bike. And as long as you keep riding, your FTP will likely improve. Remember, aerodynamics matter at all speeds, so if you can bear the mild weight penalty, prioritizing aero will make you faster for the same effort. That said, I understand wanting to stick to a normal road bike, and Canyon's road bikes are all pretty aero and racy. If it were my money, I would spend the $7200+ on a road bike that prioritizes aerodynamics, weight, and components, in that order. Maybe this one (slightly above your current budget):

https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...rahmenfarbe=BK
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Originally Posted by BoraxKid
I doubt you'll look any worse than anyone else on their bike. And as long as you keep riding, your FTP will likely improve. Remember, aerodynamics matter at all speeds, so if you can bear the mild weight penalty, prioritizing aero will make you faster for the same effort. That said, I understand wanting to stick to a normal road bike, and Canyon's road bikes are all pretty aero and racy. If it were my money, I would spend the $7200+ on a road bike that prioritizes aerodynamics, weight, and components, in that order. Maybe this one (slightly above your current budget):

https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...rahmenfarbe=BK
What a stunning bike. You're making one heck of a case for the Aeroad. It would be a nice compliment to my gravel bike.
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Originally Posted by basscadet
I'm not opposed to the Aeroad, I think it looks great. Just intimidated by the geometry and how goofy an amateur might look on such a racy bike. I'm pretty fit and flexible, but my FTP is south of 300.
And yet you're looking into aero wheels…

I think you'll look fine. Ride whatever you want. There will always be someone slower and blingier than you. You'll look great dropping that other guy with his Dogma F12 and Millenstein wheels. I personally have the Ultimate CF SL which I eventually got DT Swiss Arc1400 48s on it and I love it.

If you do go the Aeroad route though, there's a new Aeroad on the horizon. It's been rumored for awhile but updated ones with integrated cabling and deeper frame geometry has been spotted in pro peloton. If you can wait a couple more months, there may get released soon.
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Originally Posted by mattscq
If you do go the Aeroad route though, there's a new Aeroad on the horizon. It's been rumored for awhile but updated ones with integrated cabling and deeper frame geometry has been spotted in pro peloton. If you can wait a couple more months, there may get released soon.
That's interesting, I just saw the same thing on another site. There's always something new on the horizon I guess. Not sure I can wait a few months, I'm buying something in the next few days.
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As others said, just buy any other disc wheelset that has an XDR rear hub and the same thru axle capability. Then buy whatever rotors fit your new hubs - six bolt or centerlock.
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