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Old 10-26-16, 09:09 PM
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beets as in a concentrated shot. much less friendly than juice or in a salad. 2 shots ($5-6) about 2.5 hours before supposedly results in a 1-2% benefit. Ygduf's recent n=1 experiments claims its worth 2-3%.
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Old 10-26-16, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd
I've considered beet juice but man that stuff is intense. And pretty expensive. Also doesn't sound all scientific like "beta alanine" or "L citrulline"!
We buy bags of powder. Junior will use for 3 months before season.
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Old 10-27-16, 04:58 AM
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What does he / you do with it? Is it something you use Pre/ During/ Post ride?
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Old 10-27-16, 08:34 AM
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beet juice during a ride

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Old 10-27-16, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dz_nuzz
What does he / you do with it? Is it something you use Pre/ During/ Post ride?
Heaping tea spoon 4 hours pre-ride. Daily for 2 weeks before. As I mentioned, it is typically done about 3 months a year. I think it could be a 9 month thing - but it can be a drag.

Like so many things it might work, might not and there seems to be more good than harm. The inter-webs quotes, scientific testing etc. seem to all point to a study of less than 10 riders. So not conclusive by any means. But junior *thinks* it helps - and he hates it. He credits some pretty incredible bridges to it and uses the bridge up technique because he has beet root. It is definitely in his head. And while part placebo, or kinda like Rocky drinking raw eggs, when he's in the I'll-do-what-I-hate mode, which always involves beet root, he's pretty tough.

It is supposed to increase nitrates in a way the athlete is putting out more power while actually lowering VO2 use. It has a cumulative effect/stacking/building/loading. So taking it 5 days in a row is better than 2 days. So in theory his VO2 max would be lower at the same power, but more likely his power would be higher at his VO2 max. He hates those VO2 max tests, so I don't know, but I have seen power and time go up on the powder.

To add:
The stuff is a mess. After 6 months (He's at school and left it here), it gets solid-ish. I break off a bit and use in shakes. As y'all know I don't race, so can't testify to anything personally. But it does have certain digestive benefits and I like the taste. Much less expensive than the little packs.
I just took this:
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Old 11-02-16, 07:58 AM
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Not sure if this will work, but me at a cross race this weekend. That was short but steep climb. Photo cred Walter Profahl

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Old 11-02-16, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by scheibo
beets as in a concentrated shot. much less friendly than juice or in a salad. 2 shots ($5-6) about 2.5 hours before supposedly results in a 1-2% benefit. Ygduf's recent n=1 experiments claims its worth 2-3%.

https://www.luckyvitamin.com/p-67361...rt-shot-2-4-oz

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bill bushnell again. end of a not-really-a-hillclimb hillclimb

team went 1-2-3 and I actually outsprinted everyone I wanted to, for once.

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Old 11-29-16, 03:06 PM
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Just out there to have some fun, its really different from being on the road. It was in the high 40s and raining, still had too many layers on.

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Old 11-29-16, 05:57 PM
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Thanksgiving day hillclimb on Mt. Hamilton. Pulled the first 10 minutes, got worked over by Eric Wohlberg for the next 55 minutes, then finished solo, 30s down. Temps were in the 40s and it hurt.



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Old 12-04-16, 06:42 PM
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I didn't race ... but a cool pic from the local cross race. Pic by Craig Huffman

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Originally Posted by hack
I didn't race ... but a cool pic from the local cross race. Pic by Craig Huffman

nice shot!

were you racing in the 1700s?
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I didn't know there were pirates in Sacramento.
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Old 12-05-16, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
I didn't know there were pirates in Sacramento.
we get it all up here ...


wonder if the more out of place sight was the pirate ship or guys racing bikes on the river banks
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Old 12-05-16, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hack
we get it all up here ...


wonder if the more out of place sight was the pirate ship or guys racing bikes on the river banks
i was teasing above -- i like the shot.

was there any chance of falling in the drink after that right-hander?
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Old 12-05-16, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tetonrider
i was teasing above -- i like the shot.

was there any chance of falling in the drink after that right-hander?
I didn't race it this year, but did ride the course last year (same course). You're going to end up partially in the water on that stretch.
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Old 12-05-16, 06:45 PM
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Lead guy looks like he's about ready to go for a swim.
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At first glance, I thought the course cut across the water.
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shamelessly stolen from Craig Huffman, from whom I'll buy a handful this season once the races have more than 10 people.

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Old 01-16-17, 09:36 PM
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training crit with coach @mattm:



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Great to see One of My Athletes succeed right in front of my eyes!

Now if the rest of the 4/5's in our 1/2/3's race would not chase down our own break, that would be great..
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too bad about those pink helmets
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
too bad about those pink helmets
Why?

My wife has that helmet. It's pretty sharp looking. It goes very well with her black and pink kit.
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the pink on the helmet doesnt match the pink on the kit, i guess its just added motivation to get to the elite team so i can have a black and blue helmet where the blue doesnt match the kit either
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