Which Bigtime athletes in other sports could compete in Pro Cycling?
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Distance runners, cc skiiers, cc runners, triathletes (cyclists already, of course), and speedskaters.
Not NBA stars though, whoever suggested them. They are huge men and women, despite often having proportional body habitus. Little Pantani-like dudes would eat them up in climbs.
I'm not sure about swimmers either, but I'll include them with a reservation: Despite having the endurance and aerobic ability, they need to concentrate on the upper body an awful lot for their sport, and tend to have massive shoulders and thoraces. Considering that many cyclists I've seen unshirted look like ET, swimmers tend to put them to shame in the torso dept, and I'm not sure how detrimental that would make them in a more leggy sport.
Not NBA stars though, whoever suggested them. They are huge men and women, despite often having proportional body habitus. Little Pantani-like dudes would eat them up in climbs.
I'm not sure about swimmers either, but I'll include them with a reservation: Despite having the endurance and aerobic ability, they need to concentrate on the upper body an awful lot for their sport, and tend to have massive shoulders and thoraces. Considering that many cyclists I've seen unshirted look like ET, swimmers tend to put them to shame in the torso dept, and I'm not sure how detrimental that would make them in a more leggy sport.
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Aussie triathlete/ironman Mitchell Anderson recently beat Henk Vogels by 4 minutes in the 180km bike leg of the Australian Ironman. The thing was, Vogels was only doing the bike leg of a relay team, but Anderson won the whole race. Ok, 180km time-trials aren't really Vogels' thing, but he's still a pro on a Euro team
Other than that, we have a few rowers and skaters coming over to cycling and they do quite well after only a few months of training
Other than that, we have a few rowers and skaters coming over to cycling and they do quite well after only a few months of training
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Being someone who supports the underdog ...
Can anyone name perhaps a professional billiards player, fly-fishing world champ, or curling master that could make it in the Tour?
anyone?
*sounds of crickets*
*tumbleweed*
Oh well ..
Can anyone name perhaps a professional billiards player, fly-fishing world champ, or curling master that could make it in the Tour?
anyone?
*sounds of crickets*
*tumbleweed*
Oh well ..
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Pro baseball players? BAH, they couldn't fit a helmet over those steroid balloons they call their heads. Maybe some kitchen soup pot secured with a bungee cord, but not any helmet I've every seen.
NHL stars could really suck a lot of air through those tooth openings though.
Now pro skiers would be another story. Imagine Alberto Tomba (think climber or sprinter) or Hermann Meier (think trackie) on a bike. Bodie Miller too.
This is a great thread.
NHL stars could really suck a lot of air through those tooth openings though.
Now pro skiers would be another story. Imagine Alberto Tomba (think climber or sprinter) or Hermann Meier (think trackie) on a bike. Bodie Miller too.
This is a great thread.
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One of the strongest motorcycle racer who rides is Ben Bostrom... when he lived in Italy over the summer he won a Cat4 Road race, with a big climb for a finish.
Also, car racing star Max Papis grew up in the same region as Ivan Basso... rumor has it he is STRONG!!
Also, car racing star Max Papis grew up in the same region as Ivan Basso... rumor has it he is STRONG!!
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Can't believe only one other person has mentioned swimming.
a guy like Michael Phelps absolutely has the "gift" to crush people on a bike. a little on the tall side, but if an elite swimmer chose instead to pursue cycling, the results would be similar to their success in swimming would be my guess. LA was a swimmer.
a guy like Michael Phelps absolutely has the "gift" to crush people on a bike. a little on the tall side, but if an elite swimmer chose instead to pursue cycling, the results would be similar to their success in swimming would be my guess. LA was a swimmer.
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The list of names is endless.
Clint Dempsey... New England
Landon Donovan... LA
Beckham would probably compete nicely
I also know some of the Italian players ride often. Like Marco Andriolli and Christiano Zanelli. Portugese star Figo does a lot of riding. He was actually spotted riding in the Providence RI area last summer, when the team was on tour.
I don't know any names but there are at least a couple of American football players who are involved when there are throws. Some of them seem pretty lean and may be able to ride pretty good.
Clint Dempsey... New England
Landon Donovan... LA
Beckham would probably compete nicely
I also know some of the Italian players ride often. Like Marco Andriolli and Christiano Zanelli. Portugese star Figo does a lot of riding. He was actually spotted riding in the Providence RI area last summer, when the team was on tour.
I don't know any names but there are at least a couple of American football players who are involved when there are throws. Some of them seem pretty lean and may be able to ride pretty good.
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Originally Posted by Alekhine
Distance runners, cc skiiers, cc runners, triathletes (cyclists already, of course), and speedskaters.
Not NBA stars though, whoever suggested them. They are huge men and women, despite often having proportional body habitus. Little Pantani-like dudes would eat them up in climbs.
I'm not sure about swimmers either, but I'll include them with a reservation: Despite having the endurance and aerobic ability, they need to concentrate on the upper body an awful lot for their sport, and tend to have massive shoulders and thoraces. Considering that many cyclists I've seen unshirted look like ET, swimmers tend to put them to shame in the torso dept, and I'm not sure how detrimental that would make them in a more leggy sport.
Not NBA stars though, whoever suggested them. They are huge men and women, despite often having proportional body habitus. Little Pantani-like dudes would eat them up in climbs.
I'm not sure about swimmers either, but I'll include them with a reservation: Despite having the endurance and aerobic ability, they need to concentrate on the upper body an awful lot for their sport, and tend to have massive shoulders and thoraces. Considering that many cyclists I've seen unshirted look like ET, swimmers tend to put them to shame in the torso dept, and I'm not sure how detrimental that would make them in a more leggy sport.
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Originally Posted by gapowermike
There are some natural athletes that would excel at nearly any sport they attempted. Maybe not winning at a pro level, but competitive.
Tiger, Jordan and Jim Courier are the ones coming to mind.
Tiger, Jordan and Jim Courier are the ones coming to mind.
tiger...like tiger woods? Please tell me I'm missing a reference to a different tiger.
And Jordan was fine at baseball(not great, but better than any of you ), but I'd like to see him play a half or two in the NFL, as a receiver. No dice, I would bet.
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Originally Posted by Alekhine
I'm not sure about swimmers either, but I'll include them with a reservation: Despite having the endurance and aerobic ability, they need to concentrate on the upper body an awful lot for their sport, and tend to have massive shoulders and thoraces.
Michael Phelps - 6'3" 165 lbs https://www.topendsports.com/sport/sw...ps-michael.htm
taller, yes.
specialized for swimming, yes.
bulkier, no.
plus - awesomely low lactate production and clearing:
after Phelps scared the world record in the 200 backstroke last month, his lactate reading was 8.0 millimoles per liter of blood. That's extremely high for him, but after a taxing race against Phelps last summer, Baltimore native and Olympic gold medalist Tom Hannan had a reading of 17.0.
from a NYT article:
Mr. Armstrong, for example, had a lactic acid test after he had recuperated from cancer and had just begun to train again. He had 8 millimoles of lactate per liter of blood. The average person has a value of 12. But after Mr. Armstrong trained, his levels were 6, an astonishingly low number. "He has to train hard to have those very, very low levels," Dr. Coyle said.
Phelps (or other elite swimmers) if trained to be a cyclist, would only be hampered by height if anything at all.
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Hermann Maier had the opening ride in the Tour in '03 and if i remember right he wasnt too far off the pace... not bad for an alpine skier
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A valid counter-question could be asked, i.e.,
What professional bicyclists could make an impact in other professional sports?
As has already been mentioned, physique has a LOT to do with it. Bikers have the aerobic capabilities of swimmers, but they'd have to build upper body strength if they wanted to be competitive.
Same in soccer. Bikers have the stamina of soccer players, but soccer players, like sprinters in track, are pretty buffed up.
Long distance running is where I think bicyclists would have the best chance to be competitive with their present physique.
Be that as it may, a great athlete is A GREAT ATHLETE, and if their lives had taken a different turn somewhere in the past, if they had focused on a different sport or had equal access to different sports, I firmly believe that some of the names synonymous with greatness in one sport could have been equally great, or at least seriously competitive, at pro bicycling too. A lot of guys got bulked up for their sport because they HAD to in order to be competitive. Had they chosen cycling, they wouldn't have had to.
What professional bicyclists could make an impact in other professional sports?
As has already been mentioned, physique has a LOT to do with it. Bikers have the aerobic capabilities of swimmers, but they'd have to build upper body strength if they wanted to be competitive.
Same in soccer. Bikers have the stamina of soccer players, but soccer players, like sprinters in track, are pretty buffed up.
Long distance running is where I think bicyclists would have the best chance to be competitive with their present physique.
Be that as it may, a great athlete is A GREAT ATHLETE, and if their lives had taken a different turn somewhere in the past, if they had focused on a different sport or had equal access to different sports, I firmly believe that some of the names synonymous with greatness in one sport could have been equally great, or at least seriously competitive, at pro bicycling too. A lot of guys got bulked up for their sport because they HAD to in order to be competitive. Had they chosen cycling, they wouldn't have had to.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Super_Socks
plus - awesomely low lactate production and clearing:
after Phelps scared the world record in the 200 backstroke last month, his lactate reading was 8.0 millimoles per liter of blood....
Phelps (or other elite swimmers) if trained to be a cyclist, would only be hampered by height if anything at all.
after Phelps scared the world record in the 200 backstroke last month, his lactate reading was 8.0 millimoles per liter of blood....
Phelps (or other elite swimmers) if trained to be a cyclist, would only be hampered by height if anything at all.
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getting to soccer, if you want to see quads the size of multiple watermelons, Look at Roberto Carlos of Real MAdrid. Also Christiano Ronaldo would be an awesome cyclist. I hear hes a fitness nut.
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Originally Posted by Patriot
I say Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, and a few other top baseball players.
Well? They got the doping thing down pat.
Well? They got the doping thing down pat.
Soccer is the only team sport I know of with 45 minutes sustained hard effort and leg strength
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Originally Posted by alxra
That's pretty awesome. I was wondering how the swimmers might fare. The thing is, the longest distance swimmers compete at (at least in the olympics) is the 1500m freestyle, which only lasts for 15min or less. And let me tell you from experience, it is not an anaerobic event! This seems to be the hardest sport to equate performance and talent that would transfer to other sports, like cycling, running etc.
Long term swimmers are a good place to look for cyclists. The limiting factors are the same. Unlike runners where the pounding can be a limiting factor in both swimming and cycling the impact is minimal. They really are sports where dealing with exhaustion is a major part. That is long term. Short term Swimming is way too much arm and very little leg, except for sprinters.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
Baseball-LOL..might as well say golf, 20 seconds of activity followed by 10 minutes of spitting and scratching. Then you'll need the designated climber and sprinter.
That's a riot, "spitting and scratching"!!
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Be that as it may, a great athlete is A GREAT ATHLETE, and if their lives had taken a different turn somewhere in the past, if they had focused on a different sport or had equal access to different sports, I firmly believe that some of the names synonymous with greatness in one sport could have been equally great, or at least seriously competitive, at pro bicycling too. A lot of guys got bulked up for their sport because they HAD to in order to be competitive. Had they chosen cycling, they wouldn't have had to.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
Soccer and Speed skating or running is the place to look, not US team sports. Baseball-LOL..might as well say golf, 20 seconds of activity followed by 10 minutes of spitting and scratching. Then you'll need the designated climber and sprinter.
Soccer is the only team sport I know of with 45 minutes sustained hard effort and leg strength
Soccer is the only team sport I know of with 45 minutes sustained hard effort and leg strength
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Mark Webber of Williams rides and has trained with Armstrong. Alain Prost rode in his day a had the physique for it. I agree, top level drivers are super-fit. I am not a fan enough to know names but I would think some swimmers would make good bikers.
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Tony Kanaan IIRC.
Edit-Formula One is the top tier of motor racing and the drivers are subjected to extreme heat and G forces during the course of one race. They need to be in top physical conditioning to endure 2 hours of 4+ G's under cornering and braking. Plus, most F1 drivers are between 5'6" and 5'8" tall and have the physique of a jockey but are very strong and fit. Christiano da Matta (who is no longer in F1) is 5'4" and 130lbs.
I still vote David Coulthard. He's probably one of the hardest training drivers in F1 and I'm pretty sure I remember reading how he was training with a couple of pro cyclists during the off season a couple years ago.
Edit-Formula One is the top tier of motor racing and the drivers are subjected to extreme heat and G forces during the course of one race. They need to be in top physical conditioning to endure 2 hours of 4+ G's under cornering and braking. Plus, most F1 drivers are between 5'6" and 5'8" tall and have the physique of a jockey but are very strong and fit. Christiano da Matta (who is no longer in F1) is 5'4" and 130lbs.
I still vote David Coulthard. He's probably one of the hardest training drivers in F1 and I'm pretty sure I remember reading how he was training with a couple of pro cyclists during the off season a couple years ago.
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Originally Posted by alxra
Don't get me wrong, Hockey is great. But what are you measuring that by? I believe Hockey is way behind in terms of TV ratings, and advertising dollars spent on the sports. As a matter of fact, NASCAR and the PGA are ahead of the NHL in AD dollars spent (and the other 3 for that matter). The major TV networks get in to cut throat negotiations and give their shorts away when it comes time to win the next TV contract for the NFL, MLB and NBA. ESPN couldn't give the contract away 4 or so years ago when their TV contract ended with the NHL.
Bad singing aside, Oscar De La Hoya could've been great as a cyclist.
Bad singing aside, Oscar De La Hoya could've been great as a cyclist.
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Rowers and cross-country skiers would be competetive. I trained a little (for rowing) with Xeno Mueller (Gold and Silver Olympic single sculls rowing icon) and a man such as him could easily break into track cycling (he is a bit large [6'6" 225lb] for the pro-peloton) but I believe any internationally competetive light-weight oarsman would likely have a chance at being a competetive cyclist.
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Dont know if anyone has looked but, I posted a link above somewhere. Amy Gillett that was killed in a cycling/car accident in Germany this year, was a 2 time world champ (single scull) + an olympian, she then crossed into world class level cycling. Rowers for sure.
Marion Clignet, France: "I first met Amy at a world cup in Sydney and was awed when someone told me she had been an olympic rower and only on a bike for a few years. She was a great person to come across on the track or road because no matter what she always took the time to stop, chat, say hi, smile that gorgeous smile. My sincerest thoughts are with her family, team mates, and the entire community."
Marion Clignet, France: "I first met Amy at a world cup in Sydney and was awed when someone told me she had been an olympic rower and only on a bike for a few years. She was a great person to come across on the track or road because no matter what she always took the time to stop, chat, say hi, smile that gorgeous smile. My sincerest thoughts are with her family, team mates, and the entire community."
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I guarantee you that 100% of us would rather have a swimmer /surfer's build ( and tan!) that a cyclists build when it comes to hanging out on the beach...