What is your neighborhood's Walk/Bike Score?
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What is your neighborhood's Walk/Bike Score?
Something that goes hand-in-hand with living car-free or car-light is reducing the size of your personal day-to-day geographical world. I would define this as the geographical size of the area that you travel on a daily basis to go between home, work, the grocery store, and any other place you visit multiple times a week.
When my wife and I were looking for a new city to move to, we looked for a place that would allow us to keep our personal daily world small. Then we looked for neighborhoods that would put us as close as possible to our basic daily needs like work, grocery store, parks to enjoy, restaurants, etc. We also looked carefully at the bicycle routes available. Of course we started by looking at places and neighborhoods that we really wanted to live in, but then we narrowed the field further by doing our own walk/bike score. This was a process we were kind of already thinking through on our own when we discovered the Walkscore website. This website is walking oriented, but what's good for walking is usually good for biking as well: https://www.walkscore.com
Our new home in Bellingham, WA gets a 71% for walkability... I think that's lower than it should be, but maybe it has something to do with the hills? For biking our house is definitely a 90% or higher. I would give it a 100%, but you have to climb a monster hill... which at least keeps me in shape!
We are less than a half mile from just about anything we need (the historic shopping district of Fairhaven is just down the hill), and work for both of us is less than 4 miles away. The bike path that is a quarter-mile from our house can take us three miles to downtown in one direction (along the Bay), and about 7 miles out to a state park with a beach in the other direction. Bellingham also has plenty of bike lanes.
There is also a Drive Score tool at https://drivescore.fizber.com/ but this uses things like proximity to big box stores and malls (places I can do without), but I didn't find any tools that specifically score bike-friendliness. It would be more difficult to assess since these tools basically rely on proximity to businesses. For a real bike score you would need to factor in variables like traffic, available bike lanes, bicycle paths, etc.
Now I know there are people who live car-free even though they have to bike 20 miles or more to get to work and other businesses, but there sure is something nice about having everything you need within 5 miles or less. When we lived in Washington, DC our world was even smaller... but a lot more hectic with horrible air quality.There are some things we miss about living in DC, but overall we are very happy with our move... even if we did go from car-free in DC to car-light in Bellingham (it's nice to have a vehicle for driving to the mountains, and to the hardware store for those larger and heavier items).
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And for anyone reading it... please don't take this post as saying that urban (or semi-urban) living is a better lifestyle than rural or suburban living. From experience I know many suburbs are poorly designed for walking and/or biking; but others are much better. And before my wife and I decided that we wanted to live right between the historic district and the downtown business district, we thought long and hard about moving to a more rural area. We just knew we'd hate the commute to our jobs downtown(even if we could do it by bicycle sometimes) and decided to save the rural life for a time when we figure out what kind of business we can do from home (if that ever happens). If we could figure that out, we might just move to one of the islands! There seem to be a lot of people in our area (mostly farmers, artists, writers, independent contractors and telecommuters) who live in rural areas but still manage a car-light lifestyle since they don't have to head into town very often... and might do that by bicycle or boat.
Simple and flawed as it is, the walkscore is an interesting tool for getting people to think more about where they live in relation to the places they need to be on a regular basis; and how that might affect their level of car-dependency and their quality of life. Everyone has their own priorities in the end, and I'm glad my wife and I agree on most of them. Unfortunately, high walk scores often mean high prices as well
When my wife and I were looking for a new city to move to, we looked for a place that would allow us to keep our personal daily world small. Then we looked for neighborhoods that would put us as close as possible to our basic daily needs like work, grocery store, parks to enjoy, restaurants, etc. We also looked carefully at the bicycle routes available. Of course we started by looking at places and neighborhoods that we really wanted to live in, but then we narrowed the field further by doing our own walk/bike score. This was a process we were kind of already thinking through on our own when we discovered the Walkscore website. This website is walking oriented, but what's good for walking is usually good for biking as well: https://www.walkscore.com
Our new home in Bellingham, WA gets a 71% for walkability... I think that's lower than it should be, but maybe it has something to do with the hills? For biking our house is definitely a 90% or higher. I would give it a 100%, but you have to climb a monster hill... which at least keeps me in shape!
We are less than a half mile from just about anything we need (the historic shopping district of Fairhaven is just down the hill), and work for both of us is less than 4 miles away. The bike path that is a quarter-mile from our house can take us three miles to downtown in one direction (along the Bay), and about 7 miles out to a state park with a beach in the other direction. Bellingham also has plenty of bike lanes.
There is also a Drive Score tool at https://drivescore.fizber.com/ but this uses things like proximity to big box stores and malls (places I can do without), but I didn't find any tools that specifically score bike-friendliness. It would be more difficult to assess since these tools basically rely on proximity to businesses. For a real bike score you would need to factor in variables like traffic, available bike lanes, bicycle paths, etc.
Now I know there are people who live car-free even though they have to bike 20 miles or more to get to work and other businesses, but there sure is something nice about having everything you need within 5 miles or less. When we lived in Washington, DC our world was even smaller... but a lot more hectic with horrible air quality.There are some things we miss about living in DC, but overall we are very happy with our move... even if we did go from car-free in DC to car-light in Bellingham (it's nice to have a vehicle for driving to the mountains, and to the hardware store for those larger and heavier items).
Sean
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And for anyone reading it... please don't take this post as saying that urban (or semi-urban) living is a better lifestyle than rural or suburban living. From experience I know many suburbs are poorly designed for walking and/or biking; but others are much better. And before my wife and I decided that we wanted to live right between the historic district and the downtown business district, we thought long and hard about moving to a more rural area. We just knew we'd hate the commute to our jobs downtown(even if we could do it by bicycle sometimes) and decided to save the rural life for a time when we figure out what kind of business we can do from home (if that ever happens). If we could figure that out, we might just move to one of the islands! There seem to be a lot of people in our area (mostly farmers, artists, writers, independent contractors and telecommuters) who live in rural areas but still manage a car-light lifestyle since they don't have to head into town very often... and might do that by bicycle or boat.
Simple and flawed as it is, the walkscore is an interesting tool for getting people to think more about where they live in relation to the places they need to be on a regular basis; and how that might affect their level of car-dependency and their quality of life. Everyone has their own priorities in the end, and I'm glad my wife and I agree on most of them. Unfortunately, high walk scores often mean high prices as well
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32/100 but that seems way too high. Many of those close locations are on the other side of an 8 lane high-speed boulevard with no crosswalks. Also the bookstore, movie theater and park it lists are not actually correct. Those places are there but they aren't really a bookstore and a movie theater, and the park is just a historic house.
Almost nobody who lives in this neighborhood walks anywhere except myself and the people who live right across from 7-11. Kids don't even walk to the bus stop, their parents drive them there. I'm not staying here much longer.
That said, i prefer rural living and besides in town most rural places wouldn't score well at all.
Almost nobody who lives in this neighborhood walks anywhere except myself and the people who live right across from 7-11. Kids don't even walk to the bus stop, their parents drive them there. I'm not staying here much longer.
That said, i prefer rural living and besides in town most rural places wouldn't score well at all.
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walkscore just looks at sheer distances, it can't assess barriers, like freeways, but it's not a bad start
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My area got a pretty decent 75%. It would be better if I lived in the city, not the suburbs, which got a cool 94% rating.
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And for anyone reading it... please don't take my original post as saying that urban (or semi-urban) living is a better lifestyle than rural or suburban living. From experience I know many suburbs are poorly designed for walking and/or biking; but others are much better. And before my wife and I decided that we wanted to live right between the historic district and the downtown business district, we thought long and hard about moving to a more rural area. We just knew we'd hate the commute to our jobs downtown(even if we could do it by bicycle sometimes) and decided to save the rural life for a time when we figure out what kind of business we can do from home (if that ever happens). If we could figure that out, we might just move to one of the islands! There seem to be a lot of people in our area (mostly farmers, artists, writers, independent contractors and telecommuters) who live in rural areas but still manage a car-light lifestyle since they don't have to head into town very often... and might do that by bicycle or boat.
Simple and flawed as it is, the walkscore is an interesting tool for getting people to think more about where they live in relation to the places they need to be on a regular basis; and how that might affect their level of car-dependency and their quality of life. Everyone has their own priorities in the end, and I'm glad my wife and I agree on most of them. Unfortunately, high walk scores often mean high prices as well
Sean
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40 on walkability, not enough places nearby. While driving score was 65 ... hard to say the accuracy seems it would depend on the distance willing to cover.
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74 for me in NOLA. It is pretty nice, very compact city.
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seemed to be near accurate ... though even better if they could set up one specifically for biking.
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Both of the guides seem to have some details missing. Just about everything on that list, except for a cinema, is within two kilometres of my home. But it showed the nearest grocery store as something like 13 kilometres away and the nearest fitness centre around the same distance. But I know there are those facilities less than a kilometre from my door.
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Thank you. That's a cool little thing. My score is 48. I live in a neighborhood with sidewalks, so walking is easy, but there's nothing to walk TO. Almost everything I would need to go to is half a mile to a mile away. I live half a block from a creek with parkland along the bank, but that is not really a public space where one would want to just hang out, unless it is hanging out with the dog. My walk score from the dog's point of view probably is about 98.
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Grand Rapids, MI got a 78. Although two of the theatres listed within walking distance are "adult" theatres. I think that deserves a -10 from the score.
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Where I live in Santa Cruz, CA got 92. I find it amusing that it counted a local ice cream parlor (Marianne's) as a "Grocery Store", and counted the same Longs Drugs twice.
[Edit]: It seems that my workplace downtown (0.65 miles from my home) scores a sweet 97!
[Edit]: It seems that my workplace downtown (0.65 miles from my home) scores a sweet 97!
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I tried plugging in the street address for a local shopping center and it gave me a 88 and there is everything you need in that single strip mall...except an LBS but it is only a half mile away
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One thing it points out is how much a bicycle adds to the mix. My house's walk score is only 55, but I would put the bike score at 90. Combined with a good bus system and bus stops in front of my house, my location is close to 100 on a "carfree score."
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Last time I tried this my location got a 3, but this time it got a 5. Woohoo! The driving score was 70, which is optimistic. Driving should be 90+ here, since everything is so car-centric, but when you consider that traffic is so bad, it makes driving terrible here, IMO. That's why I don't do it.
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Last time I tried this my location got a 3, but this time it got a 5. Woohoo! The driving score was 70, which is optimistic. Driving should be 90+ here, since everything is so car-centric, but when you consider that traffic is so bad, it makes driving terrible here, IMO. That's why I don't do it.
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One noted omission on this is that it doesn't list transit facilities; where I live now gets a 55; but I have a choice of two rail lines, one two blocks from my house, and another 1/2 mile away, plus a bus on the other corner. Where my parents live (70's sprawling street-setup, with only one bus 1/2 mile away) gets a 69.
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looks like i got about 98 %. somerville, ma.
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Our new home in Bellingham, WA gets a 71% for walkability... I think that's lower than it should be, but maybe it has something to do with the hills? For biking our house is definitely a 90% or higher. I would give it a 100%, but you have to climb a monster hill... which at least keeps me in shape!
My business driving in 2007 was almost 17000 miles, but we only put 2300 miles on the personal car.