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Old 09-29-10, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WCroadie
Thanks guys, I know I already posted earlier the the race reports and twitter thread but I finally got all the pics that were taken of the finish so I figured I'd post here as well.
those are great. print out and put on the wall in front of your rollers/trainer so when you dont feel like doing that training session on a random wednesday in mid january, you can look at it and be reminded how good it felt to throw left fist in the air when you crossed the line 1st!
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Pete Senia. That's the one I'll probably do. Did that last year. Got 11th in the 35+. That was the best race I had in 2009. Oh well.

Do you know how many miles per lap. you get 12 we get 11 laps.
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Originally Posted by pjcampbell
Do you know how many miles per lap. you get 12 we get 11 laps.
prospect park is about 3.38 miles/lap
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
prospect park is about 3.38 miles/lap
thanks

thats a decent length race then. wonder how this will play out. does it usually just end up like a crit... maybe a break away maybe a sprint?
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Originally Posted by pjcampbell
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thats a decent length race then. wonder how this will play out. does it usually just end up like a crit... maybe a break away maybe a sprint?
Often there is a break, but seldom in the 3/4 or 4 race. The 3/4 race will very likely end in a field sprint.
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
prospect park is about 3.38 miles/lap
Even more when you're gassed on lap 8 and there's 4 to go. At least that's how it can feel.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Even more when you're gassed on lap 8 and there's 4 to go. At least that's how it can feel.
cold du prospect park is an evil lil bugger
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
cold du prospect park is an evil lil bugger
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
cold du prospect park is an evil lil bugger
It's not the mighty Col in Prospect that gets you. It's when they turn up the gas going over the top and hammer on the backstretch.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
It's not the mighty Col in Prospect that gets you. It's when they turn up the gas going over the top and hammer on the backstretch.
nomnomnom i eat hills
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Originally Posted by patentcad
It's not the mighty Col in Prospect that gets you. It's when they turn up the gas going over the top and hammer on the backstretch.
not too bad really. for a lowly (soon-to-be) 4 like me, it'd be perfect for to attack 1.5 miles (half a mile up and then hold it for another mile), then aero tuck my way down for rest on like the 2nd to last lap. if there's a place you want to fracture the pack, it's that big ring hill and the subsequent downhill as a ton of cat 4's donno how to descend.

pjcampbell, this probably won't work in your race. i recall cdr writing about the leadout to the final climb stringing out the chase at 35mph before launching. the break ahead was apparently pretty gassed, and cdr passed a few of them on the final climb. While it'll probably start as a mass sprint, it definitely won't end like one. Think of it as our version of the Huy or something
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Some previously undiscovered pictures from this year's Tour of Hermann in Missouri. Went into the road race in 4th Place, finished 6th overall. Goal for next year is to race at 175lbs and make it to the podium.
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Old 09-30-10, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RedLeg

Some previously undiscovered pictures from this year's Tour of Hermann in Missouri. Went into the road race in 4th Place, finished 6th overall. Goal for next year is to race at 175lbs and make it to the podium.
Get your head down and angle the extensions up so your forearms are *at least* level. You're scooping a lot of air.
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Old 09-30-10, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by esammuli
Get your head down and angle the extensions up so your forearms are *at least* level. You're scooping a lot of air.
Yes....this race was back in April. I was still good for 2nd place on the TT, even being blocked by traffic on an intersection.

After my teammates noted the same about my position I moved the seat back some, slammed the stem and angled the extensions up. I don't have any pictures of that position but it was good enough for 3rd place on the State TT Championships.
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Old 09-30-10, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RedLeg
Yes....this race was back in April. I was still good for 2nd place on the TT, even being blocked by traffic on an intersection.

After my teammates noted the same about my position I moved the seat back some, slammed the stem and angled the extensions up. I don't have any pictures of that position but it was good enough for 3rd place on the State TT Championships.
If you're getting lower in the front (by slamming the stem and angling the extensions up) wouldn't you want to move the seat (and extensions) forward to preserve the hip angle?
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Old 09-30-10, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by WCroadie
Cat3 PA State Championship, I attacked from about 600m and held it.
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You have that Ullrich hamstring thing going there...

Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
prospect park is about 3.38 miles/lap
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Old 09-30-10, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bcellis
If you're getting lower in the front (by slamming the stem and angling the extensions up) wouldn't you want to move the seat (and extensions) forward to preserve the hip angle?
Dunno...I am still confortable in this new position and going just as fast, I think.
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Originally Posted by MDcatV
those are great. print out and put on the wall in front of your rollers/trainer so when you dont feel like doing that training session on a random wednesday in mid january, you can look at it and be reminded how good it felt to throw left fist in the air when you crossed the line 1st!
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You have that Ullrich hamstring thing going there...
13 years of soccer, 10 years of ice hockey, 5 years of riding my bike has given me some pretty ripped legs. I get compliments and comments about them often.
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I think it was just 2006 and 2007 that the D2 Crono Carbon came with the Oval Aero Jetstream fork. The fork was one of the reasons that I bought the frame. The other was that I thought it looked cool.
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
not too bad really. for a lowly (soon-to-be) 4 like me, it'd be perfect for to attack 1.5 miles (half a mile up and then hold it for another mile), then aero tuck my way down for rest on like the 2nd to last lap. if there's a place you want to fracture the pack, it's that big ring hill and the subsequent downhill as a ton of cat 4's donno how to descend.

pjcampbell, this probably won't work in your race. i recall cdr writing about the leadout to the final climb stringing out the chase at 35mph before launching. the break ahead was apparently pretty gassed, and cdr passed a few of them on the final climb. While it'll probably start as a mass sprint, it definitely won't end like one. Think of it as our version of the Huy or something
that sucks. i am a 2 mile break away kind of guy haha but it sure does not work when we're going 30mph to begin with. why does the downhill present any kind of challenge?
i hope i can go either way
i have to work until about 5am sunday morning so i'll be cutting it close.
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich
pjcampbell, this probably won't work in your race. i recall cdr writing about the leadout to the final climb stringing out the chase at 35mph before launching. the break ahead was apparently pretty gassed, and cdr passed a few of them on the final climb. While it'll probably start as a mass sprint, it definitely won't end like one. Think of it as our version of the Huy or something
Didn't see this earlier. We caught the break in the sprint, and that would be the "likely" scenario if someone took off on the hill. In this case the break started the last lap with a substantial lead, a little less than a minute, and there were a bunch of really good riders in the break.

Post on Prospect leadout:
https://sprinterdellacasa.blogspot.co...-leadouts.html

Disclaimer - this was a Pro123 race. The guy that won... his name escapes me at the moment but he was very strong, raced for Toga, and did NOT get popped for a positive.

I had four guys bury themselves to help me that day.

Part of that "friendship is part of being teammates" or "teammates is part of being friends" - two of the four guys were my groomsmen at my wedding about 10 years later and, tellingly, they were the last two guys in the leadout train (2nd last and the Primary Leadout). I've ridden with both of them this year, raced with one (Primary Leadout no longer races but he rides consistently - he's my CA training camp host). The other two were a bit more distant.

Problem with the descent on a last lap move is that the pack can descend, coasting, really fast. I'll typically go 45-50 mph until I hit the front, then it's more like 45 mph. It's fast enough that a pedestrian got killed when a rider struck him (this happened 10-15 years ago). Solo you'll have to work hard to descend that hard.

Having said that, it never hurts to try. I mean it hurts when you try, but it'll hurt anyway

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God I hate that descent when I'm racing with the master's men. I'm always fine going up, but it's damn hard for me to even stay in the pack going down.
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Seconds from getting dropped on the second day

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Originally Posted by GirlAnachronism
God I hate that descent when I'm racing with the master's men. I'm always fine going up, but it's damn hard for me to even stay in the pack going down.
I may be doing this race with you.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
I may be doing this race with you.
I'm not racing any more this season, but I'll do most of the PP races next year. Say hi if you see me (and/or push me down the hill so I don't get dropped).
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