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Old 10-27-15, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
If you raced and didn't build up new bikes often, the old Campy post was fine. Yes, it needed that wrench. But far more important was that you could fine tune the saddle adjustment accurately and repeatable and do it just as easily out on the road. Far, far better than the easy to use one-bolt posts that bumped it off the market and dominated the next decade where you last all references when you loosened the bolt to make any change.

The real life advantage? Got a saddle sore and have to keep up your 400 mile/week training. Tip the seat say 2 1/8th turns down and ride. 10 days later go back the 2 1/8ths. Seat is now exactly where you started. And when that sore started all you had to do was put that wrench in your pocket, go out, adjust and track the number of turns. When those posts disappeared, we had to lay long straight edges on the seat and measure down to the handlebars. Not something you could do mid-ride unless you were a pro with a team support car.

I raced with a Zeus post that was a Campy copy. Used the same wrench. My Peter Mooney spent 8 years with a single bolt post set 1/2 between clicks. Perfect, BUT I didn't dare touch that bolt because it took hours to get that position and I could probably never get it again. Yes the SunTour 2 bolt post that replaced it was a much nicer post than the Campy and a lot easier to adjust but I would never put Campy post as a top five worst. No, it was pro level gear that worked very well, never broke and had the adjustment that was so important if your life was riding. (Never broke - well, no, some of those posts went so far they outlasted several bikes and final died.)

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+1. I always wondered why they discontinued that design. It can also be adjusted independently for tilt (loosen 1 bolt, tighten the other) and fore-aft (loosen both bolts, move the saddle, tighten them for the same amount).
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Originally Posted by RJM
All black "murdered out" bikes.

Just an awful invention.
the terminology "murdered out" makes me want to murder the originator of the term.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
+1. I always wondered why they discontinued that design. It can also be adjusted independently for tilt (loosen 1 bolt, tighten the other) and fore-aft (loosen both bolts, move the saddle, tighten them for the same amount).
Just get a Thomson seat post. two bolts for infinite tilt adjustment and they are accessible on the bottom.
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Sampson pedals
Yep. I had a Sampson sponsorship in the late 80s. After their sponsorship ended, the pedals were history.
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Old 10-27-15, 02:45 PM
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I have an all black bike. It goes with everything.
And, black is slimming.
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Old 10-27-15, 03:16 PM
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Does bicycle bungee count as an invention? I'm not sure they really exist.
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
EDIT: And another one. The two-bolt microadjust Campagnolo seatpost with the bolt heads up inside the saddle between the rails. Copied by SR, too. You only need the special bent wrench to adjust your saddle tilt, 1/8 of a turn at a time...
Those posts were designed when slung leather saddles with cut-away skirts like the Brooks "Swallow" were popular. With those, there's plenty of room for a wrench:



Even a Brooks "Professional" has a couple centimeters of space between the rails and the saddle leather to fit a wrench. Modern plastic-based saddles sit very close to the rails by comparison, and can be difficult for that reason. But even then, a flex-head ratchet often works well:



The advantage of those two-bolt saddles is that they are minutely adjustable, and once you get them set up, they stay put!
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Old 10-27-15, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rms13
Braze on front deraileur
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
What don't you like about those?
They needlessly limit the chainring sizes you can use. The only place they make sense to me is on a bike with non-round tubing.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
The advantage of those two-bolt saddles is that they are minutely adjustable, and once you get them set up, they stay put!
Exactly, the only design that I will use on my FG where the saddle absolutely, positively must stay put.

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Old 10-27-15, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Machka
Remember these?

Top five worst cycling inventions - Cycling Weekly


Got any you'd like to add to the list?
No offense to you, but that's a really lame list, for all of the bad cycling inventions that have come and gone. Yeah, asploding carbon wheels probably deserve to be on there, but the worst thing that you can say about BioPace is that it looks ugly and most people failed to notice a difference. How about chromed steel rims that made stopping in the rain dangerous and were made obsolete by aluminum as early as, oh, 1936?
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Originally Posted by joejack951
I think adjustable cup and cone bottom brackets may have lasted a while longer if it weren't for the stupid double-D fixed cup design that allows the mechanic the least bit of tool security on, more than likely, the tightest threaded component on the bike.
I suspect the idea behind them was that when the bike was first assembled, you'd use a professional grade tool to install the fixed cup:



After that, it would stay "fixed" in place unless and until it needed to be replaced.
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
EDIT: And another one. The two-bolt microadjust Campagnolo seatpost with the bolt heads up inside the saddle between the rails. Copied by SR, too. You only need the special bent wrench to adjust your saddle tilt, 1/8 of a turn at a time...
Loved those posts. Still have the wrench. Used it the other day on my fixed gear and 1/3 turn is easy to get.

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wrench by trsnrtr, on Flickr
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Spinaci - very early aerobars, does anyone ride a TT without aero bars today? yes dangerous in groups, but so are aerobars today
Thanks, now I have a mental image of flocks of aerobars flying around like little Klingon birds of prey, harrying little old ladies
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
Haha, oh yeah. I needed that.
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I nominate the "Italian Threaded Bottom Bracket" a design to make the "fixed" cup not-so-very-fixed at all.

"Che modo le pedivelle?"

"Non importa!"

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I guess no-one else had a Maillard Helicomatic freewheel? I think I still have the little wrench around somewhere. The only positive thing I can say about those is that the wrench itself worked as a pretty good bottle opener.
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"Tubasti" a product that was 50% Ogre-Snot and 50% Rubber Cement Sludge designed to create a minimal bond of tubular tire to rim and a maximum mess.

"Come fare una enorme confusione appiccicosa vile."

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Originally Posted by MCODave
I guess no-one else had a Maillard Helicomatic freewheel? I think I still have the little wrench around somewhere. The only positive thing I can say about those is that the wrench itself worked as a pretty good bottle opener.
I've got one of those tools, too. Loved the cassette/freewheels which were completely customizable and rebuildable.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
this is hypnotizing.

took 2 jumps before I realized it was Rev Xs
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- Mavic R-Sys (see image)

- The solid rubber tire which a new fool re-invents every couple years.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
I have an all black bike. It goes with everything.
Yep, love my little black bike. I've got shoes and bag to match.
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