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Looked at new bikes yesterday and prices weren't as much as I thought

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Old 05-15-18, 01:11 PM
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Looked at new bikes yesterday and prices weren't as much as I thought

I bought my Kuota Kredo over 10 years ago now, and I know how much it cost. I was walking around in Brooklyn and was going past R&A cycles and thought I'd look in, expecting some of these beautiful new bikes to cost a fortune, but was surprised to see the prices were about the same or less as I paid many years ago for the same level of components. 105 or Ultegra were the same, Campy was a bit more on the few with Campy. The frames themselves looked beautiful. Cervelo, Pinarello, BMC, Bianchi, Colnago, and a few others all looked reasonably priced. I'm sure going all out on a bike would still add up, but stock bikes looked good.

Did someone say N+1? My wife would kill me.
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$2,000 will get you Full Carbon with minimum 105. Get in on sale day and it's yours for $1,700. Not bad if you ask me!
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You need a new bike! Get one now!
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By all means. Lets make sure to enlarge this thread so manufactures know we're will to pay more!
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Old 05-15-18, 06:41 PM
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$2,000 will get you Full Carbon with minimum 105. Get in on sale day and it's yours for $1,700. Not bad if you ask me!
Not bad at all if you ask me. And 105 is much better today than even 5 years ago.
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Originally Posted by exime
$2,000 will get you Full Carbon with minimum 105. Get in on sale day and it's yours for $1,700. Not bad if you ask me!
One issue is that not all "Full Carbon" is equal.


In many instances you will get a better ride on a well designed aluminium framed bike, than on some budget carbon framed bike.
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Examples?

As an owner of an ALU CAAD 12 I completly agree with your statement. But are there any other examples that spring to mind. Particularly bikes which are more endurance oriented.

Originally Posted by ColonelSanders
One issue is that not all "Full Carbon" is equal.


In many instances you will get a better ride on a well designed aluminium framed bike, than on some budget carbon framed bike.
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Originally Posted by zacster
I bought my Kuota Kredo over 10 years ago now, and I know how much it cost. I was walking around in Brooklyn and was going past R&A cycles and thought I'd look in, expecting some of these beautiful new bikes to cost a fortune, but was surprised to see the prices were about the same or less as I paid many years ago for the same level of components. 105 or Ultegra were the same, Campy was a bit more on the few with Campy. The frames themselves looked beautiful. Cervelo, Pinarello, BMC, Bianchi, Colnago, and a few others all looked reasonably priced. I'm sure going all out on a bike would still add up, but stock bikes looked good.

Did someone say N+1? My wife would kill me.
Pressure from direct-to-consumer brands are keeping prices down to earth, at least for entry level carbon.

Forget N+1, if you haven't jumped on the indoor smart trainer bandwagon, consider doing so. For the first time in history, weekend warriors can get into a structured training program without hiring a coach. Don't bother getting another chassis. Upgrade the engine instead!
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Originally Posted by raria
As an owner of an ALU CAAD 12 I completly agree with your statement. But are there any other examples that spring to mind. Particularly bikes which are more endurance oriented.
The aluminium versions of the Trek Emonda and Trek Domane are probably the best examples of bikes that are suitable as an endurance oriented bike with the right setup.
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In 1997 I bought my Raleigh R700 for $1200 (still have it). Easton Elan alu frame, carbon fork, 600 (Ultegra) group.

21 years later I have my eye on a '17 Fuji Roubaix 1.2 LE on sale for $899 at Performance. Ultegra 6800 group.
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Yeah. the Roubaix is a nice bike and the baby blue color on the 1.2 LE is kind of nice. Will match a retro 1970's wedding suit ...

But its still a very aggresive geometry no?

Originally Posted by Lazyass
In 1997 I bought my Raleigh R700 for $1200 (still have it). Easton Elan alu frame, carbon fork, 600 (Ultegra) group.

21 years later I have my eye on a '17 Fuji Roubaix 1.2 LE on sale for $899 at Performance. Ultegra 6800 group.
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Originally Posted by raria
Yeah. the Roubaix is a nice bike and the baby blue color on the 1.2 LE is kind of nice. Will match a retro 1970's wedding suit ...

But its still a very aggresive geometry no?
It's just a classic racing geometry, the way I like it. The A6-SL frame is actually very nice. Advertised weight is 1290g, 8g lighter than a CAAD12. The only reason I haven't bought it yet is because I don't need a new bike. But it's pulling me in. The last four days I've told myself I'll sleep on it and make a decision in the morning haha
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Originally Posted by colombo357
Pressure from direct-to-consumer brands are keeping prices down to earth, at least for entry level carbon.

Forget N+1, if you haven't jumped on the indoor smart trainer bandwagon, consider doing so. For the first time in history, weekend warriors can get into a structured training program without hiring a coach. Don't bother getting another chassis. Upgrade the engine instead!
While I didn't get a smart trainer I did buy the Assioma power meter pedals. I spent the entire winter doing The Sufferfest and Zwift on my dumb trainer with power. I'm in better shape than ever. And I've already forgotten N+1 anyway. I have 8 bikes in the house.
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Originally Posted by raria
As an owner of an ALU CAAD 12 I completly agree with your statement. But are there any other examples that spring to mind. Particularly bikes which are more endurance oriented.
My 12 yrl old Masi Gran Criterium S but it's not for sale.

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Let me add to my previous reply.

In 1997 I bought this for $1200 (different saddle and cranks now)



I just ordered this for $1124

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I agree. I just (last week) bought a Canyon Grail - carbon frame, fork, stem/bar, full Ultegra group, Fizik saddle, DT Swiss wheelset - $2,800. That's a better bike than I bought from a shop in 2009 for $3,400. The direct-to-consumer model is a huge $$$ savings - provided you don't need the shop's help with selecting and fitting the bike... or assembling... or maintaining/repairing the bike.
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