Milton Keynes

I definitely think that vaping is far less dangerous than smoking, mainly because you're not breathing in all that toxic smoke. But I'm not sold that vaping is 100% risk free. I really don't have a dog in this fight though, because I don't smoke or vape. But I'd much rather be around someone who vapes rather than someone who smokes, because I really can't stand the stench of cigarette smoke. It triggers my migraines and makes me nauseous. At least with vaping there's no secondhand smoke.

congaree

No, not really...there is lot of mis-information out there surrounding vaping:

Vaping Causes ‘Popcorn Lung’?

I'll drop this now, since this is turning into a 'vaping' vs. 'smoking' debate and as @Maelochs suggests, probably isn't any longer addressing the OPs question.

deephate

I don't feel like an expert on anything except quitting smoking. Go to that site "why quit" and read either book and you will understand that nicotine changes your brain and the best record of people quitting is cold turkey above all other ways. Using other nicotine ( that is poison by the way ) products to quit a nicotine habit doesn't work very well for obvious reasons. Other things like quitting coffee or alcohol my help to a minor extent but I didn't do that. I quit smoking nicotine and do not indulge in any other nicotine, products or vape to get that sensation. It wasn't long at all beroe I felt like an actual non-smoker. More like reformed smoker. It is awesome not to be a slave to nicotine any longer. This is a bike forum but I just had to get that out. Tell everyone you know that smokes!

livedarklions

Most authoritative review so far: No evidence of long-term lung injury, but exposure to harmful chemicals:

New Report One of Most Comprehensive Studies on Health Effects of E-Cigarettes; Finds That Using E-Cigarettes May Lead Youth to Start Smoking, Adults to Stop Smoking

It's very clear that the exposure is far less than cigs, and the only confirmed risk so far is explosion of defective batteries.

Litespud

After numerous attempts to quit smoking, I found a small self-help book - can't remember what it was called or where it came from - but the approach it took was to personalize the urge to smoke, by inventing a character called the The Addict. It basically went "Inside you is a person called The Addict, who is constantly trying to get you to smoke. You've finished a job? The Addict suggests you have a smoke - you deserve it. Having a drink? Here comes The Addict..." etc etc. Maybe I was deflecting my own weakness and being able to blame someone else who did not have my best interests at heart, but it worked for me. I also stayed away from bars for the first few weeks (back in the day when you could have a smoke with your beer). That was >20 years ago, and while I occasionally get nostalgic about the whiff of a freshly-lit cigarette, I have no urge to light up.

livedarklions

This is your formal welcome to BF--you ask for advice, we debate whether you should vape!

Don't take the disagreements on BF too seriously--no one here knows what will work for you and really can only tell you about our experiences. Maybe something rings a bell with you and it ends up working but don't be discouraged if that's not the case.

Keep riding and keep posting! And don't listen to anyone who thinks less of you if you can't quit smoking now.

Maelochs

@livedarklions is right.

When we aren't out riding, the BF contingent is a surly lot, always looking for arguments.

Getting clean can be a very difficult and painful process. If you have made it most of the way ... Awesome.

I quit drinking first, then drugs, and cigarettes a while later. It happened when the time was right. Pretty sure whatever method you choose, whenever it is right, you will succeed. It might not be the first time ... but at some point it will be the last time.

coffeesnob

It works if you work it.

coffeesnob

When I quit smoking I prayed for help and bought a ton of those 5cent size atomic fireballs. Mouth got blisters sometimes but they sure did do the trick.

JanMM

Smoking is very addictive. Even though my last cigarette was in 1976 - after about 3 pack years over 6 calendar years - I have recently had thoughts that smoking one would be pleasant............Ain't gonna happen but the thought will always be stuck in my head.

No one really knows what the long term effects of vaping may be.

Maelochs

i actually bought a pack a few years back ... didn't like it enough to buy another. On the other hand everyone knows the long-term effects of life.

Milton Keynes

Ah, more sensationalism from websites looking for clicks. Still, the study showed that vape products have the same chemical which has been linked to popcorn lung, so there may be more study needed. But you'd think if there were a problem you'd start seeing it in people who vape since it's been around for a few years now.

tagaproject6

To the OP:
Keep trying. If you quit for 1 week, that's a victory. If you fall, get back up. Don't give up, you'll get there.

Maelochs

Quoted for truth and usefulness.

Troul 

What ever you do, just don't start gambling you money away at the casino. While gambling doesn't shorten your life's positive health conditions as smoking menthol tobacco, it can ruin other aspects far worse.

I know many that went from smoking menthol tobacco to traditional cigars. They enjoy the leisure, & do it far less, mainly due to cost & accessibility. Not any better of a habit switch, however, it does change to a different social persona.

Maelochs

One benefit of cigars is that one doesn't inhale ... not saying they are good, but better than the worst.

2pedals5

I like how you put it up!

2pedals5

I second that!

2pedals5

this is me after 20 minutes of trying to say no To myself.

2pedals5

I'll def get into that!!

2pedals5

its good to see you in this post. I'm gonna keep trying. Thanks again!

Prester John

One thing that helped me quit was when I realized the smoke you exhale is the color of pus. Now when I sit in my car at a red light and notice a smoker in the car next to me it makes me gag.

flan48

BIG +1 from me!
Regarding smoking: we're all different. When I quit, after 25 years of smoking, I really wanted to on a emotional level. When you really want it, doing it becomes easier. First, I went from 1- 1/2 packs per day to 1 cigarette after each meal. I did that for 2 weeks or so.

Once I gave up cigarettes totally, several times during the day I would kind of go through the inhale motions but using the non-point end of a pen. I'd do that with very deep and long drags/ "inhales." That seemed to negate the need at that point.

After the first week it got better and better. You can do it too! Millions of Americans have as well!

Good luck, congratulations again on being clean and best regards.

Crandall

Maelochs

Yeah ... many of us have been there. I smoked my "last" cigarette about 4,000 times.

(Now, don't go complaining that i totally hijacked your sentence and kicked your meaning out the door .... because I already know. I am sort of evil, that way. )