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Old 07-16-20, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
I went for 50 miles today with a few thousand feet of climbing. I had a banana and 1 granola bar on the ride (wanted more) and a gallon of water. I ate when I got home and had a lovely nap. I do not feel the need to see a doctor about this and wish every day could be this good.
You know....That's the first thing I thought when I read the OP. Ride, eat and then nap.
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Old 07-16-20, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
I've experienced the same thing you describe and so have others I know including a Master's racer friend. It's more pronounced if I haven't been getting enough sleep.
If I fight the urge to nap I am fine and can stay awake the rest of the day but many times I just take a nap of 30-40 minutes. If I do a hard ride with lots of climbing I am more inclined to want that nap. I'll probably have one later today after my ride.
Exactly as with me!

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Old 07-17-20, 04:09 PM
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Itís interesting how some folks are so down on Gatorade. It works really well for me. I need the energy and electrolytes that sports drinks provide doing rides of 6 hours or more. Iíve tried other methods but those just donít work as well for me.

It sounds like the OP is consuming artificial sweeteners from G2 and Crystal light which might be worse on your health over the long term than other sugars, but thatís just my opinion.

Good for the OP for riding so frequently. Itís hard for me to relate as those are short distances for me, but weíre all different.

I do know that after I retired and pushed past 65 I really enjoy a nap here and there. But mine are only 30 mins top. I probably sleep 7 hours a night so maybe thatís a factor?
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Old 07-17-20, 04:47 PM
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I think people were just saying the G2 or No sugar Gatorade provide no carbs, only electrolytes and water.
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Old 07-17-20, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GeneO View Post
I think people were just saying the G2 or No sugar Gatorade provide no carbs, only electrolytes and water.
I appreciate everyoneís comments
1) I drink the G2 for the electrolytes and because I like the taste ( grape). I tried a few recommendations of water with various
Powders but did not find the taste pleasant
2) like many...I love naps. Maybe 45 minutes...not every day as a routine. What I was describing was 2-3 hr conked out nap after the
ride
3) after readings some of the comments, it seems many my age and older are riding much longer distances! I have to get better
4) I did not mention that I am in Florida and many of the rides are in humid hot weather (100-106 heat index) but I did not think
Dehydration was an issue because many times I had to pee as soon as I finished the ride ( in part due to my enlarged prostate)
so I figured my hydration was ok.
5) I will follow some of the ideas with more carbs and protein during and after the ride, Bought some protein smoothies for after the
ride. Will also drink more fluids after I am done riding
Thanks for all the comments and I will tell my wife that the members of the forum feel that a new bike would make a big difference
And solve the problem😀😀
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Old 07-17-20, 11:38 PM
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Personally, I like G2 and zero as well, On really hot days, I bring a bottle of ice water + a bottle of G2, and some energy gels.
I am sure you will find the balance you need.
Good luck and good riding!
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Old 07-18-20, 07:19 PM
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Try CoQ10
when I started statins bike performance went way down.
started coq10 and was better
might help, dont know
not a doctor
but i have stayed at holiday inn
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Old 07-19-20, 12:24 PM
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I think aging may have something to do with it. ya think??
The comments on this board are RIDICULOUS to think that some doctor is going to know why a 67 yr cycler "needs a nap" after riding 30+ miles. This is something "only a doctor" would know!?? And apparently the OP is a doctor.
I'm only 61 and I am laying here totally trashed after 37 miles yesterday and 30 today. I can't move from the couch and I'm TOO TIRED to properly nap.
As these years go by we may have to slow down a bit. It gets tougher that's why in races or group rides the +60 crowd is pretty thin. We get weeded out over the years, illness or just plain tired. It gets harder and it's harder to keep it going.
I'm going to keep going as long as I can, but I can feel it. I was hoping to do 55mi today but i woke up trashed and I made the right decision to cut it down to 30.
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Old 07-19-20, 12:49 PM
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I am 57 y/o and ride on average three times per week with my rides ranging from 40-85 miles and 100 feet of ascent per mile. After trial and error I adopted the following routines after my rides. I drink a whey protein shake and about a quart of cold water post ride. I take a cold shower. I eat a mixed green kale salad after each ride. I have a cup of black coffee after my meal. With this, I rev my metabolism and I do not want to nap. I keep a strict sleep schedule from 2100 to 0400. For me, this works. YMMV
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Old 07-22-20, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by glenncz View Post
I'm only 61 and I am laying here totally trashed after 37 miles yesterday and 30 today. I can't move from the couch and I'm TOO TIRED to properly nap.
As these years go by we may have to slow down a bit. It gets tougher that's why in races or group rides the +60 crowd is pretty thin. We get weeded out over the years, illness or just plain tired. It gets harder and it's harder to keep it going.
My 62 year old friend does 50-100 a few times per week and never has any issues.

If you are trashed after 37 miles one day and 30 miles the next day...you may have some other underlying issues.
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Old 07-25-20, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CyclingBK View Post
Here’s a thought from a newbie himself (52) total uninformed, non medical professional perspective and if you have any concerns, you should absolutely see your doc.

But....

Maybe you’re just tired and need some sleep to recover. You do 30 miles after only riding for 8 weeks and you’re 67 years old. To me, it sounds like a huge workload for someone your age who has really just got started. Are you pushing yourself on these rides?

You ride in the morning, have a meal, and need a rest.

The fact that you are even riding such mileage without struggling during the ride would seem to indicate you are fine. And you are doing 20 miles with no issue after those rides.

If you took an average 67 year old (non cyclist)they couldn’t even do 5 miles and if they did more than 10, they would sleep for 3 days.

Ok, that’s my rant.

But seriously, if you have concerns, be safe and talk to your doc ; )
Agree with you, Bruv. I just got on a bike after being off for 10 years. There are times I can do 10 at a mid-teens pace, and others when I’m gassed at 5. A lot is conditioning, a lot is the fact that our bodies are all different, and some may be due to environmental conditions. Just because somebody’s friend can, doesn’t mean that others should be able to.

And, nothing wrong with a good nap after exercising!
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Old 07-25-20, 04:46 PM
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Post ride Fatigue

At 78 I train 6 days a week with intervals on a smart trainer for 4 days and hammer sessions of 60 and 31 mi. Sat. and Sunday with a bunch of 50 year olds. I take a nap every day I ride from 20 min to about an hour depending on how hard the ride was. I use Heed on all rides and add protein if over 60 mi.; My post ride drink has been chocolate milk for the last 5 years.
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Old 08-02-20, 07:20 AM
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I ride in a fashion similar to the OP. I'm generally somewhat tired after my rides and could easily take a nap but don't always do so. The need for a 2-3 hour nap would be unusual and depend on my sleep schedule on the day before my ride. I do suspect that if I was riding in the heat and humidity of Florida, I might too suffer in a similar fashion! I would also add (IMHO) that statins can and do (in many individuals) lead to muscular "issues". I've personally experienced a significant weakness that developed shortly after being put on Zocor many years ago! I discussed the issue with my physician, stopped the medication and the weakness resolved. While I'm not suggesting that anyone should stop taking prescribed medications without first discussing it with their primary care provider, I am suggesting that the OP (as a physician) take a serious look at ALL of the side effects of the statin class of cholesterol management medications. Just sayin' 😎.
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Old 08-02-20, 09:02 AM
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Nothing a shower and a good nap wont fix.
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Old 08-03-20, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rstyle View Post
I appreciate everyoneís comments

4) I did not mention that I am in Florida and many of the rides are in humid hot weather (100-106 heat index) but I did not think
Dehydration was an issue because many times I had to pee as soon as I finished the ride ( in part due to my enlarged prostate)
so I figured my hydration was ok.😀
What color is your urine? If it is a light, straw color, you are not dehydrated; if it is a dark color, you are!
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Old 08-05-20, 10:10 AM
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Might as well enjoy the ride...

If I ride 15 miles I don't have much post ride fatigue. If I ride 25 miles in high humidity and temp., I may feel drained as you describe, usually after shower and meal. I'm only 64, and just consider it a normal effect of aging. If I ride every day, I try not to go over 20 miles. 16 or so is better for every day of the week riding.

I say just live within your limits and stay active. There's more to life than cycling; don't burn yourself out just to meet some notion of how far you think you should go.
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Old 08-05-20, 10:19 AM
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At 78 I train 6 days a week with intervals on a smart trainer for 4 days and hammer sessions of 60 and 31 mi. Sat. and Sunday with a bunch of 50 year olds. I take a nap every day I ride from 20 min to about an hour depending on how hard the ride was. I use Heed on all rides and add protein if over 60 mi.; My post ride drink has been chocolate milk for the last 5 years.
Ok, seriously, that's badass. I got work to do. Cap off.
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Old 08-05-20, 02:33 PM
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1)This AIN'T nutrtional, lytes or hydration, though that can make it worse.
2) We recover slower at age and heat is as much an exertional stress as exercise
3) Get. a stress echo and note your max METS and HR recovery time, maybe peripheral arterial leg ankle brachial pressure index. Cheap basic eval.
4) maybe try logging your rides for speed distance cadence and temp to note your ceiling and go gradual

I am in Texas and the heat here bonks my 70 yo butt
but I try to stay within my limits and do a bit better every day
which sometimes means that I just showed up.
A man's gotta know his limits.
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Old 08-07-20, 10:26 AM
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Naps are a cure.
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Old 08-09-20, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rstyle View Post
I have read about this but wondering if people in the more advanced age group have experience with this.
i am 67 and have been riding every other day for the last 8 weeks. I usually do 15-20 miles on weekdays and 30-35 on weekends. After the long rides I feel well and may clean bike, take shower, eat lunch.....but 1-1.5 hrs after the ride I get very significant fatigue. I must lay down and sleep for 2-3 hours. Donít want to move.....all I want to do is lay down.. Once I am up I feel fine. It does not happen on shorter rides.

Is use one Gu at beginning of ride and one at mid ride. Will drink 2 full bottles of G-Zero ( maybe I should use regular Gatorade).
Should I try snack bar mid ride? What would be good to eat after the ride? Anyone experience the same thing?
The time length of naps will vary according to circumstances. The body will adjust, given time. By "time" I mean the ride regime within the context of the rider's other activity. Its never isolated to "just the ride".

The body will adjust to the load. As you ride longer or faster, the body will somehow recognize the demands. The body may even "complain" by asking for more nap time (repairs and maintenance). Eventually, the body will make the adjustments. The rider needs to help the body along during the rides and after too.

How to help the body along? First, the pace, if you rush it and try to be a racer type, the body may show muscle soreness or even occassional cramps now or afterwards during the nap. Ouch!. Does this mean interval training isn't that good? It may mean interval training does some things but not all things. Just don't get fooled that you somehow "should" do interval training to solve the body problem.

Nutrition is during the ride and afterwards. The heart muscle works (beeps), thus electrolytes. The blood needs to carry oxygen and nutrients to the tissues. And the muscles need to respond accordingly. Orchestrate all that and the body will thank you for it.

Go ask your colonoscopy physician about electrolytes prior to the procedure. Mine did and suggests using Ultima Replenisher. No sugar, just electrolytes.

https://www.ultimareplenisher.com/?g...SAAEgIl1_D_BwE

If your body wants a longer nap time, then let it happen.
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What you describe sounds like a perfect day to me.

Go for a ride. Then take a shower, drink a beer and have a nap. Wake up in time to light the grill and open another cold one. Being retired, I can sleep in or rest the next day. Like today. Tomorrow, back to it.
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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
I always love how people come on bike forums to seek medical advice about their health. It never ceases to amaze me.
I always amazes me that some people never ask questions but also encourage others not to ask any questions either. The rule is, if you never ask questions you never learn anything.

I think a nap after a ride is a fine idea.
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Originally Posted by bblair View Post
What you describe sounds like a perfect day to me.

Go for a ride. Then take a shower, drink a beer and have a nap. Wake up in time to light the grill and open another cold one. Being retired, I can sleep in or rest the next day. Like today. Tomorrow, back to it.
Update: did that exactly today. Waiting for the grill and going to put on some swordfish and salmon. That is way more interesting that milage/pace or feet climbed.
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Old 08-13-20, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by berner View Post
I always amazes me that some people never ask questions but also encourage others not to ask any questions either. The rule is, if you never ask questions you never learn anything.
Nothing wrong with asking questions. But then be prepared for armchair quarterbacks to answer for the type of question the OP asked. The OP has a physical condition he is concerned about.

Medical diagnosis (in this case fatigue) is complex enough in person...expecting it to work via Internet forums is unreasonable and it delays getting competent help. There is no way to validate the source or quality of the advice you are receiving. All a person is getting is vague and nonspecific advice that anyone can write on the internet.
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Embrace the nap, I was a nap naysayer for years. I was wrong, my naps only last 15-30, ala Einstein style. Sitting in a chair, slowly I return to the world and feel great.

Statins, they do affect muscles. I was on them for a short time, couldn't handle them so I gave up red meat, cheese, a lot of sugar and the statins.
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