Rust prevention: A test of popular treatments
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Non scientific but my experience:
Every now and then I cut branches at my backyard with a machete that I keep in a barn. The blade is very rust prone, tried grease, WD-40, oil, etc, but the best for me is linseed oil. Absolutely no rust.
Every now and then I cut branches at my backyard with a machete that I keep in a barn. The blade is very rust prone, tried grease, WD-40, oil, etc, but the best for me is linseed oil. Absolutely no rust.
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so apparently from this test Corrosion Block is the best from the looks of the bare metal. now where can you get it? I found it online at boating supply stores for about 25 to 30 bucks for a 12oz can. Nothing locally yet.
I have a frame completely stripped right now. IM wanting to use somthing on it before i piece it back together.
ive thought about using any number of these products including framesaver and engine fogging oil which woudl coat really good.
One thing im concerned about is i might choose to powdercoat the frame in a couple years. Will the 400+ degree temps cause these products to get runny again and mess up the powder coat process?
On an oil based product i would think it would . I tend too keep my frames waxed good on the outside with a good car wax and it seems to work good. IM also nervous about putting somthing in my frame that will periodically drip (i store my bikes in the living room
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I have a frame completely stripped right now. IM wanting to use somthing on it before i piece it back together.
ive thought about using any number of these products including framesaver and engine fogging oil which woudl coat really good.
One thing im concerned about is i might choose to powdercoat the frame in a couple years. Will the 400+ degree temps cause these products to get runny again and mess up the powder coat process?
On an oil based product i would think it would . I tend too keep my frames waxed good on the outside with a good car wax and it seems to work good. IM also nervous about putting somthing in my frame that will periodically drip (i store my bikes in the living room

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West Marine sells it for about 18 bucks a can. Not exactly cheap, but a little better than what you've found. Also I think you can order it directly from Lear (a quick google search will bring their site up) from quite a bit cheaper.
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im betting after shipping the savings are null. IM still hunting locally here in MN.
I guesss we have 10000 lakes. Id better start calling more boat stores
I guesss we have 10000 lakes. Id better start calling more boat stores

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I bought the Corrosion Block and Boeshield at my local West Marine boating supply warehouse. I dont remember what it cost but, per ounce, they were both less expensive than J.P. Wiengle Framesaver.
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And the winner is......???
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Corrosion Block!!!!
Sorry, in Thailand now.
Finished the test a bit ago but had been insanely busy preparing (and working a lot trying to get some extra fund-age) for 10 weeks in Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam as well as a year in Ireland after.
But yes C.B. was the big winner by a landslide. Framesaver took second.
I have the photos with me so I'll post up a full report once I have the opportunity.
sorry, probably an anti-climax without the pics but promise to get them up soon.
And dont worry if you are using one of the other products, they probably hold up ok in normal conditions.
But in extreme conditions, after everything was rusted to hell, C.B. was shiney and pretty.
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W.N., thanks for running a proper test in a proper lab versus the one in front of my garage in the 33647.
In regards to Corrosion Block, I purchased mine at West Marine, a boating supply store for ~$17/12 oz. which is considerably cheaper than what Framesaver cost.
In regards to Corrosion Block, I purchased mine at West Marine, a boating supply store for ~$17/12 oz. which is considerably cheaper than what Framesaver cost.
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My wife wondered about Rustoleum. I mean, if the goal is to prevent access of oxygen and water to the metal and let's say you're protecting the inside of a mudguard, why not Rustoleum? As long as the integrety of the paint remains unbroken, I don't see why it might not be as good as any of the other materials tested. By the way, I ordered my first can of Framesaver this morning.
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One of the key features of Frame Saver, and possibly Corrosion Block, is that they spray in as a rather runny liquid. The alcohol & whatnot propellant evaporate, leaving the protecting film. In heat, whatever is left of the propellant further evaporates. The film never seems to run. Me thinks this is significant. The main key is complete coating in there where we cannot see.
Many other substances might/would revert to a runny liquid in heat (even direct sunlight?), meaning a pool would/could form in your bottom bracket (and bearings?). So the long-term protection would be questionable. It is why I wouldn't want to use any of the oils (boiled or otherwise).
If I'd known about the Corrosion Block, I might have gone that route. I'd want to do a bit more homework on the compound. But, for the small $ involved, I'm very happy to have double-dosed my latest bike project with Frame Saver.
We spend big bucks on the frame, and then niggle over $5 difference on this stuff?
I still hope Bro. Rumfoord posts his photos. I may need to go to Bangkok to track him down, huh?
Many other substances might/would revert to a runny liquid in heat (even direct sunlight?), meaning a pool would/could form in your bottom bracket (and bearings?). So the long-term protection would be questionable. It is why I wouldn't want to use any of the oils (boiled or otherwise).
If I'd known about the Corrosion Block, I might have gone that route. I'd want to do a bit more homework on the compound. But, for the small $ involved, I'm very happy to have double-dosed my latest bike project with Frame Saver.
We spend big bucks on the frame, and then niggle over $5 difference on this stuff?
I still hope Bro. Rumfoord posts his photos. I may need to go to Bangkok to track him down, huh?
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If I'd known about the Corrosion Block, I might have gone that route. I'd want to do a bit more homework on the compound. But, for the small $ involved, I'm very happy to have double-dosed my latest bike project with Frame Saver.
We spend big bucks on the frame, and then niggle over $5 difference on this stuff?
We spend big bucks on the frame, and then niggle over $5 difference on this stuff?
I understand your point about niggling over $5 but in reality its much, much more than that from a % prespective. 'Frame Saver' probably costs 200% per ounce than C-Block or Boeshield and as someone has already speculated 'Frame Saver' may be an already existing rebranded product.
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Prospects of pictures not looking too good. I wonder if he's still got that Ironman.
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Hi all! I have not been able to cycle since a knee injury in 2010, which hopefully explains my long absence, however from time to time I remember how I dropped the ball on this and it fills me with anxiety. Yay anxiety!
Well, I recently came across the photos from the salt fog test so hopefully I can redeem myself. I don't recall the order at this point, but it's clear which one is Corrosion Block!
Take care






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Out of the Wild Blue Yonder.
What a thread revival!
Anxiety driven for a decade.
Wouldnndt da Three Hail Marys have sufficed???
All is Forgiven..... except, who were the losers again?
What a thread revival!

Anxiety driven for a decade.

Wouldnndt da Three Hail Marys have sufficed???

All is Forgiven..... except, who were the losers again?
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Awesome. Thanks for the follow-up! Sorry I ever doubted you about the photos.

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Surprised to get an email notification that this thread is alive again.
Has any of these pieces of metal survived after almost 11 years?
Has any of these pieces of metal survived after almost 11 years?
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I, too, am very pleased to see this thread revived! Welcome back, Bro Rumfoord.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (still my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King (the gravel grinder)
1971 Gitane Tour de France (The War Horse) (1 owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (The Garage Queen) (crashed out)
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement frame)
1980 Ritchey Touring (The Grail Bike)
1984 Tom Ritchey Team Competition (NOS show bike)
(replacing the stolen 1981 Tom Ritchey Everest custom)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
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