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Rust prevention: A test of popular treatments

Old 06-02-10, 08:29 PM
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The good thing is it is taking a long time for these things to rust...
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Non scientific but my experience:
Every now and then I cut branches at my backyard with a machete that I keep in a barn. The blade is very rust prone, tried grease, WD-40, oil, etc, but the best for me is linseed oil. Absolutely no rust.
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Old 06-06-10, 08:10 AM
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so apparently from this test Corrosion Block is the best from the looks of the bare metal. now where can you get it? I found it online at boating supply stores for about 25 to 30 bucks for a 12oz can. Nothing locally yet.

I have a frame completely stripped right now. IM wanting to use somthing on it before i piece it back together.

ive thought about using any number of these products including framesaver and engine fogging oil which woudl coat really good.

One thing im concerned about is i might choose to powdercoat the frame in a couple years. Will the 400+ degree temps cause these products to get runny again and mess up the powder coat process?

On an oil based product i would think it would . I tend too keep my frames waxed good on the outside with a good car wax and it seems to work good. IM also nervous about putting somthing in my frame that will periodically drip (i store my bikes in the living room )

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so apparently from this test Corrosion Block is the best from the looks of the bare metal. now where can you get it? I found it online at boating supply stores for about 25 to 30 bucks for a 12oz can. Nothing locally yet.
West Marine sells it for about 18 bucks a can. Not exactly cheap, but a little better than what you've found. Also I think you can order it directly from Lear (a quick google search will bring their site up) from quite a bit cheaper.
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im betting after shipping the savings are null. IM still hunting locally here in MN.

I guesss we have 10000 lakes. Id better start calling more boat stores
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Old 06-06-10, 11:27 AM
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I bought the Corrosion Block and Boeshield at my local West Marine boating supply warehouse. I dont remember what it cost but, per ounce, they were both less expensive than J.P. Wiengle Framesaver.
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Old 06-06-10, 11:47 AM
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interesting. We have a couple west marine stores around the state. Nothing really close to me but they do exist. They are closed on sundays dang it.
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is the boeshield product the lube or the rust treatment? I see they make alot of differnt products.
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Old 06-17-10, 11:42 AM
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And the winner is......???
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Old 06-21-10, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicago Al View Post
And the winner is......???

Corrosion Block!!!!
Sorry, in Thailand now.
Finished the test a bit ago but had been insanely busy preparing (and working a lot trying to get some extra fund-age) for 10 weeks in Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam as well as a year in Ireland after.

But yes C.B. was the big winner by a landslide. Framesaver took second.
I have the photos with me so I'll post up a full report once I have the opportunity.
sorry, probably an anti-climax without the pics but promise to get them up soon.

And dont worry if you are using one of the other products, they probably hold up ok in normal conditions.
But in extreme conditions, after everything was rusted to hell, C.B. was shiney and pretty.
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Old 06-21-10, 12:37 PM
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W.N., thanks for running a proper test in a proper lab versus the one in front of my garage in the 33647.

In regards to Corrosion Block, I purchased mine at West Marine, a boating supply store for ~$17/12 oz. which is considerably cheaper than what Framesaver cost.
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Old 12-05-10, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by W.N. Rumfoord View Post
I have the photos with me so I'll post up a full report once I have the opportunity.
sorry, probably an anti-climax without the pics but promise to get them up soon.
possible to post those pictures? thanks.
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My wife wondered about Rustoleum. I mean, if the goal is to prevent access of oxygen and water to the metal and let's say you're protecting the inside of a mudguard, why not Rustoleum? As long as the integrety of the paint remains unbroken, I don't see why it might not be as good as any of the other materials tested. By the way, I ordered my first can of Framesaver this morning.

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Old 12-08-10, 01:08 PM
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One of the key features of Frame Saver, and possibly Corrosion Block, is that they spray in as a rather runny liquid. The alcohol & whatnot propellant evaporate, leaving the protecting film. In heat, whatever is left of the propellant further evaporates. The film never seems to run. Me thinks this is significant. The main key is complete coating in there where we cannot see.

Many other substances might/would revert to a runny liquid in heat (even direct sunlight?), meaning a pool would/could form in your bottom bracket (and bearings?). So the long-term protection would be questionable. It is why I wouldn't want to use any of the oils (boiled or otherwise).

If I'd known about the Corrosion Block, I might have gone that route. I'd want to do a bit more homework on the compound. But, for the small $ involved, I'm very happy to have double-dosed my latest bike project with Frame Saver.

We spend big bucks on the frame, and then niggle over $5 difference on this stuff?

I still hope Bro. Rumfoord posts his photos. I may need to go to Bangkok to track him down, huh?
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If I'd known about the Corrosion Block, I might have gone that route. I'd want to do a bit more homework on the compound. But, for the small $ involved, I'm very happy to have double-dosed my latest bike project with Frame Saver.

We spend big bucks on the frame, and then niggle over $5 difference on this stuff?
When you research keep in mind that Boeshield was developed by Boeing ot protect air frames, that in itself is/was good enough for me. Sitting next to the Boeshield was can of Corrosion Block so I said, 'f-it, its only money". I figured if these products were designed for the aircraft/marine industry they'd work just fine for a bike frame.

I understand your point about niggling over $5 but in reality its much, much more than that from a % prespective. 'Frame Saver' probably costs 200% per ounce than C-Block or Boeshield and as someone has already speculated 'Frame Saver' may be an already existing rebranded product.
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Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
I may need to go to Bangkok to track him down, huh?
It seems your already in the general area.....
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I apologize for my long (and unfortunate) hiatus.
I hope to make up for it....(as for me, just went on my first ride of this year, and on my new '86 Ironman. Felt good. Hope it was the first of many to come this year.)
Prospects of pictures not looking too good. I wonder if he's still got that Ironman.
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
Prospects of pictures not looking too good. I wonder if he's still got that Ironman.
Unfortunately I do not, haha

Hi all! I have not been able to cycle since a knee injury in 2010, which hopefully explains my long absence, however from time to time I remember how I dropped the ball on this and it fills me with anxiety. Yay anxiety!
Well, I recently came across the photos from the salt fog test so hopefully I can redeem myself. I don't recall the order at this point, but it's clear which one is Corrosion Block!

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Out of the Wild Blue Yonder.
What a thread revival!

Anxiety driven for a decade.

Wouldnndt da Three Hail Marys have sufficed???

All is Forgiven..... except, who were the losers again?
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Awesome. Thanks for the follow-up! Sorry I ever doubted you about the photos.
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Surprised to get an email notification that this thread is alive again.

Has any of these pieces of metal survived after almost 11 years?
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I, too, am very pleased to see this thread revived! Welcome back, Bro Rumfoord.

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