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Old 02-28-21, 06:08 PM
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Paramount build

I finally got to work on the Paramount frame that Francophile said I could keep after it followed me home from the beauty shop. It has had a fresh coat of powder-coat in a baby blue color with some sparkle in it, and I have begun to make it into a bike again.
here are a few pics of the first steps:



I went through the process of cleaning all of the threads including the small bits like the adjuster bolts on the rear drop outs. Same treatment for all of the frame add-ons like the bottle bosses and the bottom bracket. The steering tube needed some work for the threads on the head set and I pressed in the headset parts. After the cleaning of the threads on the shift lever bosses and removing the PC from the bosses I mounted the shift levers. It is nice to get to this point. Tomorrow I will add the BB parts and crank arms. The derailleurs will be next. Decision for wheels is still in the air, tubulars or clinchers? Smiles, MH
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Looking very, very sharp. Opaque Blue for a 1990's-era Paramount? Me likey.

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I agree with Kurt, one of my favorite colors along with mint green....going Campy with the "boat anchor"??
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What are you building it with? What group?

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Originally Posted by Mad Honk
here are a few pics of the first steps:



I went through the process of cleaning all of the threads....... MH
Very nice. Thanks. But you are the master. I have that tap too and could never use it with a tap handle that large! Maybe cuz I'm a sparky vs a real engineer, but I use about the smallest wrench I can find (an old Utica 4" adjustable from my Dad) tucked between my thumb and forefinger or no way I can feel the threads and howz it go'n.

But, gee, I can solder and test diodes and recite ohms law n stuff.

Please keep the photos and news coming.
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Ok Folks,
My day job got in the way of this build today. The weather got a bit better and the golfers are coming out of the woodwork, and today was no different. One PGA pro and one hacker, but they are paying the bike bills so I did the day job today. I have located the drop out adjuster screws in Stainless steel and will put the other parts on tonight. Pics coming soon. Honk

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Looking very, very sharp. Opaque Blue for a 1990's-era Paramount? Me likey.

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1990s or is it from the 1980s? I can't tell. What year is it, Mad Honk?
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Pastor Bob,
It is a 51st anniversary model (1989), but the only decal set was for the 50th and it was the same set for both years. And Kurt doesn't like it enough to trade me that front clip for it! So I got to work on it tonight after the day job. I sourced the Stainless bolts for the drop outs and installed them. I use a waterproof grease for the threads to keep the screws working correctly. a couple of pics:

I source these bolts from Fastenal by the bag of 100. Using two per bike they don't really last that long, but if someone needs a couple they need to PM me.

I use the Dualco grease guns for a lot of this as the needle tips makes applying the grease really effective. Grease is waterproof.
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Along with the drop outs I was able to get the correct BB put in and add the crank arms. Clearance is about 3/16ths inch on the chain stays for the rings and 1/4 " on the q for the chain stays. Pics of the crank install, I use an electric battery powered impact gun set to a normal torque for crank bolts. I'm kinda lazy about this, but it sure is a lot faster for the work. I use the same for disassembly, I am not a fan of a lot of hard work.

Me being lazy and using an impact gun for the install.

Same for the non-drive side less than a minute to complete the job.
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And lastly I added the front and rear derailleurs for this one. Here are the pictures of those installed. Again all threads were covered in waterproof grease to prevent damage and make repairs easier. All of the parts installed so far have gone through a complete refurbishing and addition of newer parts that will be rider friendly, like the sealed bearing jockey pulleys.

refurbished rear derailleur with new sealed bearing jockey pulleys, and the new drop out adjusters

Front derailleur and installed crank arm. Clearance of the derailleur is 1/8" above outer ring.

An aside to Ben; You are correct I did go to the parts stash and it took three bottom brackets to get the Q line right. A lot of the parts like the crank arms were source previously through the 'Bay but they are period correct and will be fine for this rider quality bike.
Still need to figure out the rims and tires. I have GP-4s for tubulars, and black anodized Weinmann LP18 19c rims for clinchers. And it looks like I won't be able to find clinchers in anything less than 25c. If I go the 28* route I have Matrix ISO-C rims and Campy high flange hubs, and I have 18 c Vitoria tires to go on them. The choices.... Smiles, MH

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Jhabbs,
I have pieced together bits and parts for this thinking about it being a rider and not a museum bike. Mostly super record but generation 1. It will get Cinelli bars and stem. The treatment is still in the air for tape. Smiles, MH
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Red Jockey wheels will make it go faster.....and if they get out on the Boat Anchor....well you know the rest of the story.
Following the build to see what else you pull out of the archives.
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The Blair Witch photography style is especially enticing.

More seriously (and constructively...lol), light blue, SR, polished silver, and dark anodized rims are gonna be a HOT combo on that Paramount. Can't wait to see it come to completion! [I find myself saying more and more lately that although I do like a good red, that man, I like a lot of blues and they help make many a beautiful bike. ]
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Originally Posted by Mad Honk
Pastor Bob,
It is a 51st anniversary model (1989), but the only decal set was for the 50th and it was the same set for both years. And Kurt doesn't like it enough to trade me that front clip for it!
That reminds me, MH - send me a PM about the front clip. Not sure if you meant sheet metal or the B-body front suspension and rear drums I have, which is the closest thing I have to a "front clip." I wouldn't mind getting it out of the shed.

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Red Jockey wheels will make it go faster.....and if they get out on the Boat Anchor....well you know the rest of the story.
Following the build to see what else you pull out of the archives.
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I have always been told that the red ones go faster! Har. MH
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Riddle of Steel,
The Blair Witch treatment seems to be the result of a junk camera that changes it's mind during use. My non-intentional tremors don't help much either. As much as I would like to I can see buying and I-phone to take pictures. In fact the I-stuff has been problematic for me. My wife turned into the War Department when I bought her an I-ron.* Smiles, MH
* everything now goes to the cleaners for pressing etc.
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Riddle of Steel,
The Blair Witch treatment seems to be the result of a junk camera that changes it's mind during use. My non-intentional tremors don't help much either. As much as I would like to I can see buying and I-phone to take pictures. In fact the I-stuff has been problematic for me. My wife turned into the War Department when I bought her an I-ron.* Smiles, MH
* everything now goes to the cleaners for pressing etc.
No worries, sir. BF has suffered with my crappy camera's photos in my earlier years, and iPhones still hate low light (well, a lot of light situations....). The blur and graininess struggles are very real. And of course it looks good on the phone or camera's small screen, and then troublesome on the computer. We were promised technology would be helpful! My refurb'ed iPhone 8 needs a new camera unit, so that'll have to happen soon. Been using a "spare" iPhone 6 Plus I bought cheap (with a cracked screen...now more cracked?) but never ended up activating (long story, my fault). Tried selling it, and then realized a different kind of weird people (try to) buy phones/techy stuff, and I'd rather deal with bike people. Even cars/car parts, I don't like dealing with those buyers/sellers...and I like cars!

I look forward to really any photo of that Paramount, especially when it's fully built.
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Finally getting back to this build. The spring rush for golf kept me away for a while doing the work that pays the bills. But I have made a decision about the wheels. I found a pair of non damaged MA40's at the co-op that were were built for training bikes for the little five hundred for women. No nicks or rim damage so they have won the rim position for this build. I had to go to the part stash and pick out hubs and they are Record low flange that have been refurbished and are ready for the build. I went to my go to parts source for spokes (Cycles 365) and they tried to scare me into next week when I found that almost all DT spokes were out of stock! I found two boxes of the right size for the rear wheel and I will have to re-calculate for the front wheel and hope to find the right sizes for that build. If I can get clearance for 25c wide tires I will put some Conti Grand Prix 4 tires on the build. If not, it looks like I will have to break into the stash of Vitoria kevlar 19c's. So it will have that look that Riddle of Steel thinks will "pop".
I will put on a set of 64/40 Cinelli bars on a 1A stem. The bar tape treatment will be like I did for the RAAM bikes. One wrap of white foam tape with a mesh of the skiving so it is seamless and then the overwrap with white Benotto for the final outer wrap. The brakes have been reconditioned and the SR will be correct for the build.
I am leaning toward white cables and a white Turbo saddle to complete the look for this build. An interesting aside is that the SR seat post had been Heli-coiled and to repair it to functional I was able to use a stainless hex head bolt. It will not be Campy correct but much more functional. When I can get my junk camera I will post pictures and continue the Blair Witch photos for your entertainment. Ben since I am using the rims from a little five practice bike I think your "Mooch" jersey should be proudly posted in this thread. Smiles, MH
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Neat project. That's tight clearance if you can't mount 25c tires.
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Ask and you shall receive Mad Honk
Mooch.

Great Build going on....
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BTW Blair Witch is back on Netflix if you need more inspiration!
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Hi Folks!
I am back at this thread finally after a bit of a hold up. Wheel building had to take a back seat this past week when Dawn at Pro Kote Indy called to let me know that my 1884 Trek 670 was finished and ready to be picked up. A four hour tour and my wallet being a bit lighter got the frame back home for it's new journey to an unsuspecting victim on BF.
The week end was held back due to the War Department's insistence that yard work be done concerning flower beds. A trip to the compost place and picked up a yard of compost so she can till the stuff in to her heart's content. So now back to the build and some pictures. I will add photo's when I can get them uploaded to the computer. Smiles, Honk
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Ok,
Getting ready for the wheel build. Tomorrow is supposed to be rainy so likely a good day to stay in a build them up. Here are the parts, and after another session at UBI for spoke lengths, I should be all set. Smiles, MH

Record hubs all cleaned up and ready to go.

Spokes from 365 cycles and there should be enough to do both wheels.

The rims acquired at the local co-op from a bunch of Little Five Hundred training wheels. These things look almost new and will need only a bit of cleaning to do the wheel build.
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Ben and All,
I got side tracked by my accountant this morning to send 1K to the IRS over the past year's income. Which bewilders me as my fiscal means have not changed, but I did the deed and am now a bit lighter in my bank account. So now I have a question for you. Do you want me do an account of the wheel build and turn it into a "How To" mini series in this thread. It should not take a lot of space and will describe my four step process to build a wheel. Let me know... Honk
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Ben and All,
I got side tracked by my accountant this morning to send 1K to the IRS over the past year's income. Which bewilders me as my fiscal means have not changed, but I did the deed and am now a bit lighter in my bank account. So now I have a question for you. Do you want me do an account of the wheel build and turn it into a "How To" mini series in this thread. It should not take a lot of space and will describe my four step process to build a wheel. Let me know... Honk
I vote yay for the wheel build tutorial, yes plz.
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Yes, posting the wheel build would be a nice addition to the thread. More pics and info = more better, and it can be interesting seeing what little tips, tricks and preferences surface.

Looking forward to seeing this come together, a very nice color. Enjoy!
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