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Old 06-10-19, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rje58 View Post
I'm interested to see what people are using, because all I've got is a cheap cable combination lock just to keep the grab-and-rides away while I go in the Mini-Mart for 3 to 5 minutes.
I have a keyring padlock for that on manual bikes. I put it through the chain and front derailleur. People have tried to ride off, only to go over the handlebars...

My e-tandem has digital locking of the motor. But it's as quick to unclip the Kryptonite Series2 D-lock and put that through the front wheel.

I am in the market for a better D-lock.
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Originally Posted by MikeyMK View Post
I am in the market for a better D-lock.
The Abus 540 seems to be working well for me so far. It's not as hefty as my wife's New York Standard and it feels a little less obtrusive when I have it in a backpack (honestly don't even notice it).

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Originally Posted by MEversbergII View Post
The Abus 540 seems to be working well for me so far. It's not as hefty as my wife's New York Standard and it feels a little less obtrusive when I have it in a backpack (honestly don't even notice it).

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Cheers, they're well acclaimed yeah. Personally I'm not concerned about weight, I only really ride e-bikes. so I'm particularly interested in looking at locks that are built with the weight:cost ratio out of that compromise.
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Old 06-12-19, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyMK View Post
Cheers, they're well acclaimed yeah. Personally I'm not concerned about weight, I only really ride e-bikes. so I'm particularly interested in looking at locks that are built with the weight:cost ratio out of that compromise.
I think it might still have an edge there, on account of shackle geometry - the difference between the two is probably minor, though. Generally those are the two I keep being posted as best choice. If weight's not an issue, though, you might be able to use motorcycle versions of those locks - I've seen pictures of them, but have no experience.

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Citadel Ultra High Security. 12mm shackle. Tubular lock, only locks on one side. LPL picked one in 11 seconds. Kept my bikes from being stolen on campus, outside various work locations, outside stores & theaters, at parks and rest stops and from my garages and sheds since I bought it in the fall of 1977.

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Originally Posted by FiftySix View Post
Currently, my bike lock looks something like this.
Public service announcement to all: home garages and sheds are the #1 location bikes get stolen.

My bike in my locked garage has a lock on it.
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Originally Posted by wipekitty View Post
This lock is heavy and awful...
The OnGuard Brute broke the cutter jaws of LPL's hydraulic bolt cutters and in R/L has run the battery of angle grinders dead (or maybe just wore out the cutter wheel) when thieves have tried to cut it.



I saw 'em on sale for $36 this past spring, about 35~40% of the cost of an Abus 540 Granit.

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Old 06-12-19, 11:35 AM
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...an angle grinder or a small dremel will get through anything.
Well, it's not like every other person on the street is carrying a high power angle grinder with a quality cutting wheel and fully charged high-capacity battery, risking jail (or worse) by creating as much noise as 47 cats in heat and putting on a fireworks display in public.




Even the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit lock was picked by this youtube guy in like 15 seconds.
Interesting; got a link to that? The LPL took ~2 minutes to pick a Kryptonite New-U lock, seated at a comfortable work table with good light and the lock held at the optimum angle, using a custom disc detainer pick that cost more than a decent bicycle.

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Old 06-12-19, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
I don't support Krypto locks they are heavy and not very secure and that doesn't work for me. They can ***getabout our business we have gone ABUS and we aren't looking back.
I've been a big fan of Abus U-locks, but did run across this disturbing picture of a claimed bike theft:



Quality U-locks lock on both legs, the thought being that to steal the bike both legs will have to be cut. This Abus Granit X-Plus 54 Mini was cut through one 13mm leg (as shown) and the claim was the remaining U was able to be bent enough to slip the bike frame out of the lock.

Doubt if one could bend the 18mm U of a Kryptonite FU in the same way.
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Old 06-12-19, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
Public service announcement to all: home garages and sheds are the #1 location bikes get stolen.
Who says that? Insurance companies? If so, that would make sense as some people would claim their bicycle was in their garage (whether it was or not) to file a home insurance claim.

The photo I posted was generic, and doesn't reflect the fact that my garage is an attached garage. Which means my garage is essentially my home. As long as I don't leave my doors open and unlocked, any unauthorized entry might meet a Texas repelling device.
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Old 06-12-19, 07:07 PM
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Well, it's not like every other person on the street is carrying a high power angle grinder with a quality cutting wheel and fully charged high-capacity battery, risking jail (or worse) by creating as much noise as 47 cats in heat and putting on a fireworks display in public.
Of course not. Which is why I said my lock is good enough to the other guy.

The chances of someone trying that are slim (first of all), and even if they did, they'd draw attention which is the most you can hope for really since all locks are fallible.

The best of them will (hopefully) deteer the thieves by their sheer bulkiness and build as well as (hopefully) give the thief a hard time and thus draw attention of anybody near by.

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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
Doubt if one could bend the 18mm U of a Kryptonite FU in the same way.
Apparently not. Every non-pick test i've seen of it says the only way to open it is to cut both legs. 2x 18mm is one hell of a firework display.
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Old 06-13-19, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
Well, it's not like every other person on the street is carrying a high power angle grinder with a quality cutting wheel and fully charged high-capacity battery, risking jail (or worse) by creating as much noise as 47 cats in heat and putting on a fireworks display in public.






Interesting; got a link to that? The LPL took ~2 minutes to pick a Kryptonite New-U lock, seated at a comfortable work table with good light and the lock held at the optimum angle, using a custom disc detainer pick that cost more than a decent bicycle.

https://youtu.be/wXEY5vg75EY
Yh, I was talking about LPL. I know the video is 2min but he talks a lot. The actual picking took him like 30sec. I was exagerating, I was on about the same guy.

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Originally Posted by krecik View Post
Yh, I was talking about LPL. I know the video is 2min but he talks a lot. The actual picking took him like 30sec. I was exagerating, I was on about the same guy.
Nopester. In the 4:19 run time video I linked to, he takes the lock in hand @ 2:07 and pulls it open @ 3:58.
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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
Nopester. In the 4:19 run time video I linked to, he takes the lock in hand @ 2:07 and pulls it open @ 3:58.
I did say I was exaggerating. It's called a hyperbole.

Anyway what's your point?

I used the example to highlight the fallibility of all locks, even expensive branded ones. My point still stands, 1 minute and 51 seconds isn't that long either.

This is dumb.

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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
Nopester. In the 4:19 run time video I linked to, he takes the lock in hand @ 2:07 and pulls it open @ 3:58.
If a lock lasts 1:51 in his hands, that's something.
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Originally Posted by krecik View Post
Ha Ha, ok. Nice word btw, 'schlepping...' I learned something.

To each his own.

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Thanks, though not my word, I believe it is Yiddish or derived thereof. A good word though and one I use frequently.
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The best security for bikes is the cheapest bike 100%. The cheaper the bike, the lesser they'll like. You have to really lie to yourself to steal a cheap ole bike. LOL Even when it's not chained up.

That's my policy, and it's fine. I just swap parts, buy accessories, and keep a very light combination cable that springs up into a coil on me only for the fellers that say, "Hey, goin' joy ridin', boys. Lookey seeeeeeee." And away they go, dump the ole b off in a ditch, and no one knows the better. So a $7 cable.

Security is not in the price you pay but in the price you do not.
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Thanks, though not my word, I believe it is Yiddish or derived thereof. A good word though and one I use frequently.
It is derived from Yiddish, but it is an American term. Usually just used to say you carried something that's awkward (and usually heavy) - you wouldn't schlep, say, a bouquet of flowers but you could schlep a 100 pound sack of flour.

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The best security for bikes is the cheapest bike 100%. The cheaper the bike, the lesser they'll like. You have to really lie to yourself to steal a cheap ole bike. LOL Even when it's not chained up.
Yeah that 100% does not work in my neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by allout1 View Post
The best security for bikes is the cheapest bike 100%. The cheaper the bike, the lesser they'll like. You have to really lie to yourself to steal a cheap ole bike. LOL Even when it's not chained up.

That's my policy, and it's fine. I just swap parts, buy accessories, and keep a very light combination cable that springs up into a coil on me only for the fellers that say, "Hey, goin' joy ridin', boys. Lookey seeeeeeee." And away they go, dump the ole b off in a ditch, and no one knows the better. So a $7 cable.

Security is not in the price you pay but in the price you do not.
I suppose there are 2 ways of tackling this dilema.

One is that we risk loosing our nice things and thus invest in extra security measures. The other is that we give up having nice things all together. I see your perspective but I'm more inclined towards the former. What's the point of going to work and having money if I can't buy myself nice things with it?

If someone steals my bike, that's too bad, I'll be sad about it but then I'll just buy all the components and stsrt over again.

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Originally Posted by baconshakes View Post
You're not making sense.

Fun fact:

Your bike doesn't have to be stolen from your home to be claimed on your homeowner's insurance policy. For example: your bike is covered if it is stolen from your car rack, rack in front of your local strip club, garage at that Airbnb in Tulsa, etc. when you are away from home.
So, where's the data that says a garage is the #1 source of bicycle theft?

I did a brief look and only came up with what neighborhoods experienced more theft than others. Nothing I came across mentioned garages, however I'd expect insurance companies to have that info.
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Originally Posted by FiftySix View Post
Nothing I came across mentioned garages, however I'd expect insurance companies to have that info.
And they do.

https://velosurance.com/blog/how-to-...icycle-stolen/
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Originally Posted by baconshakes View Post
You're asking the wrong guy. I made no such claim.
It was an open question for anyone to answer. TCS jumped right in and I appreciate him/her for that.

It's hard to wordsmith my replies on my phone to not come across harsh. I'm merely trying to have discussion with you, or anyone, here at BF.

Back to the garage storage situation, the article TCS links clearly indicates not to leave a garage door open or the garage unattended. Except for some accidental happening, my particular garage (attached to my home) is either closed or I'm in it working on things. We just don't leave it open.

I can fully understand how bikes get taken out of garages left open and unattended. Plenty of my neighbors do just that and they are definitely taking a risk.
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Originally Posted by MEversbergII View Post
It is derived from Yiddish, but it is an American term. Usually just used to say you carried something that's awkward (and usually heavy) - you wouldn't schlep, say, a bouquet of flowers but you could schlep a 100 pound sack of flour.



Yeah that 100% does not work in my neighborhood.
Hey you haven't seen the flower bouquets I carry
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