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Old 03-25-17, 10:36 AM
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Foods that put you down?

What type of foods you think put down your performance? food to avoid?
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Old 03-25-17, 12:26 PM
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I consciously avoid anything with bell peppers or raw onion before or during rides (on rides where I eat during.) Mostly just due to the fact that they revenge on me, and burping peppers or onion for a few hours is quite unpleasant. I haven't noted any particular food that makes me feel as if they're "weighing me down," though. That said, I have a laundry list of must-avoid foods due to an interminable battle with diverticulitis, which is a whole 'nother topic entirely.
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Cliff bars.

Basically, anything acidic or hard to digest, before a ride. Anything with too much simple sugar.
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Eating too much of any food before and/or during training will upset your performance. It's not about any particular food but it's the portion size and calories consumed...For me personally there is only one food which I can't tolerate and that is anything that has coconut. Coconut oil and coconut milk just kills me...I hate coconut so much that if I had a choice between eating coconut or raw liver I would chose to eat raw liver.
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Peanuts and some dairy.

I'm intolerant of both, and both make my digestive system rather ... active. Not good when you're on a bicycle.
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Depends on intensity and timing.

Before and during an intense ride: no fat, no fiber. Thus nothing even vaguely difficult to digest, including almost everything people think of as normal food. I can't even drink milk or eat an apple. Simple sugars, maltodextrin, gels, Shot Bloks, sports drinks, whey protein, that sort of thing.

Before and during a moderate ride: anything that's not too hard to digest. The above, plus potatoes, pastries, sandwiches, fruit, ice cream, pie, sports and protein bars, that sort of thing.

After any ride: whatever suits my macros. IOW the macros I need to complete my day's diet, so proteins, carbs, fats, in amounts to fill in my need for the various grams of macros that I destroyed or burned during the day and will need to have available for destruction or burning on the next day. If I'm not riding or working out the next day, then just whatever I feel like that won't cause weight gain.
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The biggest one for me? Alcohol. I love it, but it will suck any physical or mental energy from my bones.

I function best on a high protein diet. Chicken, farm eggs, ahi tuna,cheese and avocados for fats keep me chugging along. If I crave sugar a glass of juice hits the spot.
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You just made me realize how much French I've forgotten since college, lol

I'll shy away from red meat when I'm doing longer rides twice or so a week. It takes forever for my body to digest, and, I feel is a large contributer to my weight gain if/when it happens.
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Granola gives me gas.
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I am cooking pork ribs now in soya sauce, etc since I am asian .. LOL

Tomorrow I am going for my first 60 mile ride. My previous clip is 51 miles and I didnt do a good job.

Why pork? It got sustaining energy. I hope it doesnt put me down.

Tomorrow I am eating mostly carbohydrates.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
Depends on intensity and timing.

Before and during an intense ride: no fat, no fiber. Thus nothing even vaguely difficult to digest, including almost everything people think of as normal food. I can't even drink milk or eat an apple. Simple sugars, maltodextrin, gels, Shot Bloks, sports drinks, whey protein, that sort of thing.

Before and during a moderate ride: anything that's not too hard to digest. The above, plus potatoes, pastries, sandwiches, fruit, ice cream, pie, sports and protein bars, that sort of thing.

After any ride: whatever suits my macros. IOW the macros I need to complete my day's diet, so proteins, carbs, fats, in amounts to fill in my need for the various grams of macros that I destroyed or burned during the day and will need to have available for destruction or burning on the next day. If I'm not riding or working out the next day, then just whatever I feel like that won't cause weight gain.
Back when I rode serious distance, speed and elevation, this quote described me to a "T". I had problems on RamRod several times with fueling. Hammer nutrition products solve the problem nicely, but I discovered them after I was a bit old for this type of performance.
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Originally Posted by randallr
Back when I rode serious distance, speed and elevation, this quote described me to a "T". I had problems on RamRod several times with fueling. Hammer nutrition products solve the problem nicely, but I discovered them after I was a bit old for this type of performance.
I'm 71 and rode RAMROD in '15 on our tandem with my wife, in '16 solo, and will ride it solo again this year and for as long as I can manage it. Low numbers are fun. The nice thing about being old is that one has more time to train. Using an annual training plan on TrainingPeaks has been a big help.

I did quit randoing in my late 60s though. I'd rather ride tandem with my wife. Life is short. Going to ride a metric century tomorrow on the tandem. Not supposed to rain during the ride time. Just made up my bottle of malto and whey protein, 750 calories. My wife uses Ensure, 2-3 bottles for a metric. Right now, we're training for a Cascade tour at the end of April. Don't let it get you down.
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The foods I avoided in my racing days (ie when it mattered) were animal products except cheese and yogurt, occasional poultry and fish. These because of the slow digestion, preferring to eat lighter foods and let my body concentrate on rebuilding muscles. Before a big race, my last normal meal would be breakfast the day before. After that, all the fruit, fruit juice and water I wanted right up to the start. (I rarely wanted much the couple of hours before racing.) Big advantage of the fruit diet - I started the race with a very clean GI tract and felt great.

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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
I'm 71 and rode RAMROD in '15 on our tandem with my wife, in '16 solo, and will ride it solo again this year and for as long as I can manage it. Low numbers are fun. The nice thing about being old is that one has more time to train. Using an annual training plan on TrainingPeaks has been a big help.

I did quit randoing in my late 60s though. I'd rather ride tandem with my wife. Life is short. Going to ride a metric century tomorrow on the tandem. Not supposed to rain during the ride time. Just made up my bottle of malto and whey protein, 750 calories. My wife uses Ensure, 2-3 bottles for a metric. Right now, we're training for a Cascade tour at the end of April. Don't let it get you down.
Wow! I'm ten years younger than you, commute 25 miles a day but am off for a month because they just put in a pacemaker. Hoping to get back to some of my high riding this summer again.
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Pizza, every time I eat it I feel super sluggish the WHOLE ride.
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Instant noodles. During a hard workout I feel as if the aftertaste is coming out from my stomach to taint and put an icky sensation in my mouth.
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I eat like **** then wait 10 - 20 mins and go ride without too much problem, I guess its depend on person

But if I am gonna race or do hard intensity, I would avoid gluten rich/fatty/oil/fried food, its hard on my gut to the point that I want to vomit halfway . . .
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Pancakes, waffles, etc. before or during a stop. Carbon crash an hour later.
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It's going to vary from person to person, but anything you are sensitive to or have trouble digesting will be on the "Avoid" list. You also have to consider what type of ride you are doing. A 150-mile day tour will have different requirements than a time trial or sprints on the local A-group training ride. Generally, think of simple carbs (including maltodextrin) as jet fuel for fast, short burns and complex carbs and fats as diesel for the long haul. Protein is important, but should not be considered as a primary fuel before or during a ride. It comes into play more during your post-ride recovery and rest periods, when your body is growing and rebuilding.

In general, avoid heavy or greasy meals, spicy and gassy foods. Personally, I avoid dairy and leafy or fibrous vegetables (cabbage, broccoli, large salads) before and during rides. I do best on dilute fruit juice (homemade lemonade with just a pinch of NuSalt, which contains NaCl and KCl), dried fruits, nuts, oatmeal cookies, some granola or granola bars (Nature Valley crunchy works for me, some others have too much sugar and/or fat). I love chocolate but learned not to eat or drink anything chocolate during hard rides because it gives me heartburn, post-ride no problem).

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if it had a mother don't eat it . If it is a product from something that had a mother don't eat it . If it comes in a package that cost more to produce than the product inside , don't eat it . If it had anything to do at anytime with anything that came from monsanto , don't eat it . If it has been irradiated don't eat it . if you think fluoride is in water to prevent cavities you are not going to be able to understand this message . Bon apettit' .
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if it had a mother don't eat it . If it is a product from something that had a mother don't eat it . If it comes in a package that cost more to produce than the product inside , don't eat it . If it had anything to do at anytime with anything that came from monsanto , don't eat it . If it has been irradiated don't eat it . if you think fluoride is in water to prevent cavities you are not going to be able to understand this message . Bon apettit' .
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I read the title and was thinking hemlock.
Heck, I read the title and was thinking dogs and radiator anti freeze!
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