Any Guesses on the Value of this Lemon(d)?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Any Guesses on the Value of this Lemon(d)?
This is a weird one. I assume it's a Lemond but it says "Lemon" and Johnson Siding on the top bar? Any ideas on value? Is it any good? Any red flags?
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/708248521469207/?mibextid=dXMIcH
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/708248521469207/?mibextid=dXMIcH
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pioneer Valley
Posts: 1,024
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 334 Post(s)
Liked 753 Times
in
392 Posts
Nice bike, in need of a thorough inspection and probably an overhaul. Check that the seatpost moves if you look at it. I do think 400 is steep, considering the apparent condition. I’d probably offer 200 max if I really wanted it, and budget for a rebuild (tires, cables, chain, etc.)
Last edited by bboy314; 03-03-24 at 09:27 AM.
#5
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,870
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12792 Post(s)
Liked 7,699 Times
in
4,087 Posts
#6
Senior Member
You're right, I should have been more specific. I meant the 1996 and forward LeMonds back when they were a boutique brand of Trek, not the earlier Bilato-built bikes under his name.
#7
Friendship is Magic
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 22,985
Bikes: old ones
Mentioned: 304 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26427 Post(s)
Liked 10,386 Times
in
7,212 Posts
.
...Not sure why you'd think it's a Lemond.
Given the color and the graphics, I would guess it's a repainted something.
Might be a high quality something, but it's hard to tell from the photos.
...Not sure why you'd think it's a Lemond.
Given the color and the graphics, I would guess it's a repainted something.
Might be a high quality something, but it's hard to tell from the photos.
__________________
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pioneer Valley
Posts: 1,024
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 334 Post(s)
Liked 753 Times
in
392 Posts
Yeah, looking again, it’s likely not a LeMond, so I rescind my earlier suggestion of $200 as an offer. Probably a decent frame but mish mash of parts, more like $50 or so as a project. My money’s on it being a Centurion
#9
Crawlin' up, flyin' down
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Democratic Peoples' Republic of Berkeley
Posts: 5,658
Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1027 Post(s)
Liked 2,531 Times
in
1,059 Posts
It is most definitely not a Trek-built Lemond. I focus on the Trek-era Lemonds because (1) those are the ones I know something about (I have a 2000 Zurich) and (2) the font of the graphics is from that era. It most likely is not a pre-Trek Lemond either, but I am not positive about that.
The big give-away, as someone has noted, is the Trek-era Lemonds were TIG welded - no lugs. They also came with a CF fork, not a lugged steel fork, also as mentioned above..
The guy's marketing makes me think that he cannot be trusted. Someone made sure that the graphics do not say "Lemond" but the listing says it is a Lemond. The guy may be on the up-and-up, but the ad sure does not smell that way. I say: Hard pass, walk away.
The big give-away, as someone has noted, is the Trek-era Lemonds were TIG welded - no lugs. They also came with a CF fork, not a lugged steel fork, also as mentioned above..
The guy's marketing makes me think that he cannot be trusted. Someone made sure that the graphics do not say "Lemond" but the listing says it is a Lemond. The guy may be on the up-and-up, but the ad sure does not smell that way. I say: Hard pass, walk away.
__________________
"I'm in shape -- round is a shape." Andy Rooney
"I'm in shape -- round is a shape." Andy Rooney
Likes For bikingshearer:
#10
Senior Member
Thread Starter
It is most definitely not a Trek-built Lemond. I focus on the Trek-era Lemonds because (1) those are the ones I know something about (I have a 2000 Zurich) and (2) the font of the graphics is from that era. It most likely is not a pre-Trek Lemond either, but I am not positive about that.
The big give-away, as someone has noted, is the Trek-era Lemonds were TIG welded - no lugs. They also came with a CF fork, not a lugged steel fork, also as mentioned above..
The guy's marketing makes me think that he cannot be trusted. Someone made sure that the graphics do not say "Lemond" but the listing says it is a Lemond. The guy may be on the up-and-up, but the ad sure does not smell that way. I say: Hard pass, walk away.
The big give-away, as someone has noted, is the Trek-era Lemonds were TIG welded - no lugs. They also came with a CF fork, not a lugged steel fork, also as mentioned above..
The guy's marketing makes me think that he cannot be trusted. Someone made sure that the graphics do not say "Lemond" but the listing says it is a Lemond. The guy may be on the up-and-up, but the ad sure does not smell that way. I say: Hard pass, walk away.
#11
Thrifty Bill
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 23,526
Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more
Mentioned: 96 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1236 Post(s)
Liked 964 Times
in
628 Posts
Clueless seller with ridiculous price. My experience is I cannot talk him to reality, so I move on.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: North of Boston
Posts: 898
Bikes: 1973 Schwinn Sports Tourer plus a " few" more :)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 211 Post(s)
Liked 199 Times
in
147 Posts
Plenty of other bikes out there. I, too, believe this is NOT a Lemond.
I have several of them and LOVE THEM !!!!!!
Continue your search for a real LEMOND....you will not be disappointed !!!!!!
I have several of them and LOVE THEM !!!!!!
Continue your search for a real LEMOND....you will not be disappointed !!!!!!
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,685
Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super,Lemond Maillot Juane.& custom,PDG Paramount,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,
Mentioned: 156 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2326 Post(s)
Liked 5,013 Times
in
1,784 Posts
Yeah the fender eyelets don't fit for sure. If a Billato built Lemond you should find a rear brake bridge like this.
And then on the underside of the BB will be a frame size stamp and under that will be some letters stamped to indicate the tubing type.
And then on the underside of the BB will be a frame size stamp and under that will be some letters stamped to indicate the tubing type.
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
Steel is real...and comfy.
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Rupert's Land
Posts: 1,243
Bikes: 1981 Raleigh GP, 1985 Norco Bush Pilot, . . .
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 241 Post(s)
Liked 187 Times
in
136 Posts
Looks like a repainted Centurion Elite RS 1985 or Centurion Le Mans RS 1986.
Edit:
Ebay Centurion Lemans RS
A 1987 Centurion LeMans RS.
Edit:
Ebay Centurion Lemans RS
A 1987 Centurion LeMans RS.
Last edited by Hummer; 03-08-24 at 02:38 PM. Reason: More info
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 9,530
Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 792 Post(s)
Liked 1,789 Times
in
639 Posts
Not sure it matters much I'm with other guys saying this bike is mid 80's Centurion that has had some different decals put on it, The paint frame details and parts seem to match the first year 83 Centurion.
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 13,447
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4237 Post(s)
Liked 2,949 Times
in
1,808 Posts
Not worth that price.
__________________
Bikes: 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX, 1989/90 Colnago Super(issimo?) Piu(?),1990 Concorde Aquila(hit by car while riding), others in build queue "when I get the time"
Bikes: 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX, 1989/90 Colnago Super(issimo?) Piu(?),