Nuvinci/Enviolo shifting setup is complete crap
10-01-23, 02:45 PM
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Nuvinci/Enviolo shifting setup is complete crap
Unlike other bike shifters, you cannot use force when shifting but have to be really delicate like it is a slider. It is more like a slider control than most bike shifters. Meaning that it is easily damaged this way. It uses crappy plastic cogs and small delicate parts hold the cable in place.
It's also only available in a twist shifter which is my least favorite shifter setup.
Otherwise it's a good concept for a igh hub, especially since you can't "mis-shift" like other igh hubs can happen.
It's also only available in a twist shifter which is my least favorite shifter setup.
Otherwise it's a good concept for a igh hub, especially since you can't "mis-shift" like other igh hubs can happen.
10-01-23, 03:02 PM
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Internal geared hubs require you to be the clutch. You can become faster with practice. I have a Rohloff IGH and it is quite fast. You need to time the shift with a very short backing off of the pressure on the pedals. Derailers were not always as easy as they are today. I missed shift could destroy the derailer and do frame damage. Have you actually damaged the hub or shifter. I would be surprised if you did.
10-01-23, 03:06 PM
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Don’t understand. Show us some photos of your bike.
10-02-23, 06:49 AM
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Other gearing systems - IGH, derailleurs, BB gearboxes - have discrete gears. You have to overcome the detent and the friction and the spring force to shift, then the system plops you into a different drive ratio, some defined interval from the last.
The Enviolo is a CVT. The desmodromic Enviolo shifter is "delicate" to allow the rider to super fine-tune the gear ratio in minuscule increments.
Work with it rather than against it.
The Enviolo is a CVT. The desmodromic Enviolo shifter is "delicate" to allow the rider to super fine-tune the gear ratio in minuscule increments.
Work with it rather than against it.
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10-02-23, 02:06 PM
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Other gearing systems - IGH, derailleurs, BB gearboxes - have discrete gears. You have to overcome the detent and the friction and the spring force to shift, then the system plops you into a different drive ratio, some defined interval from the last.
The Enviolo is a CVT. The desmodromic Enviolo shifter is "delicate" to allow the rider to super fine-tune the gear ratio in minuscule increments.
Work with it rather than against it.
The Enviolo is a CVT. The desmodromic Enviolo shifter is "delicate" to allow the rider to super fine-tune the gear ratio in minuscule increments.
Work with it rather than against it.
It doesn't really super fine tune it however. There is too much give in the cable. Also of the cogs inside are plastic and they do not feel precise.
10-02-23, 02:47 PM
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Enviolo is great, having have sold it for 10 years+ and ridden it a bunch in that time, we have had few issues with the system. Certainly yes you do need cables at the proper tension like a derailleur and it is two cables and you don't need to be rough with it but that isn't really an issue. Saying it is a problem because of those facts is just silly.
I would happily consider an Enviolo system on a bike without question. The only thing I do not love personally but love the idea of is the Automatiq system.
I would happily consider an Enviolo system on a bike without question. The only thing I do not love personally but love the idea of is the Automatiq system.
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10-07-23, 04:56 PM
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Using Citibike with the choice of Enviolo, Shimano Nexus, and Sram, I reach for the Enviolo every single time. The infinitely adjustable gearing is great.
10-09-23, 06:03 AM
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Yeah, Enviolo works fine, but it is not a high-performance drivetrain in the road racing spirit. Complaining about Enviolo performance is like carping about a Cadillac DeVille being a lousy track car. Enviolo and DeVille are good at what they do, but neither do “slam and jam.”
I’ve ridden Enviolo on ebike, and am impressed that the hubs must be durable to manage the higher demands— weight, torque, power— of ebikes, on which they’re commonly spec’d.
I’ve ridden Enviolo on ebike, and am impressed that the hubs must be durable to manage the higher demands— weight, torque, power— of ebikes, on which they’re commonly spec’d.
10-14-23, 08:13 PM
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If the low limit screw "L" was set wrong, or the bike was dropped on the drive side damaging the derailleur, it can end up in the spokes.
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