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Old 02-09-19, 12:00 AM
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Please Refer Me to MTB Brake Levers

I have an old touring bike with Tektro levers that work the best for me. I can get three (med to large) fingers in the blade comfortably and snugly. I have searched and am unable to find them anywhere. I will settle for another brand as long as the following criteria are met:

1) Black bar mounts with silver blades
2) 2.5 - 3 finger blade length
3) I DO NOT want to actually "see" the cable wire when I pull them. Seeing the metal end encapsulated in the lever is OK.

Thanks!!!
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Well if you can see the cable when you pull them they are not setup correctly or using the wrong brake levers with the brakes. There are V brakes levers and there are Canty Brake Levers, what are the brakes and what purpose are they for?
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Pics would help.
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Originally Posted by 2cam16
Pics would help.
I have mechanical discs- the seller said that they would work. There is enough pull. You can see that in these "BMX" type levers, there is an absence of the metal piece that typically extends from the lever, shrouding the actual cable.


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I have a set of mechanicals on one of my bikes and the lever looks like the same reach as v-brake levers. Have you tried typing in "mechanical disc brake levers" ?
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I have a set of mechanicals on one of my bikes and the lever looks like the same reach as v-brake levers. Have you tried typing in "mechanical disc brake levers" ?
I got them to work by using slightly thinner cable, but now I find the 2 finger lever is too short and braking is somewhat impeded by my Thumbies shift levers... I really would like to find those 2.5 -3 finger levers...
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
I got them to work by using slightly thinner cable, but now I find the 2 finger lever is too short and braking is somewhat impeded by my Thumbies shift levers... I really would like to find those 2.5 -3 finger levers...
I have to replace these levers. During a test ride, I have found them to have little stopping power compared to my other bike sporting similar mechanical discs...
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What KIND of mechanical disc brakes are these? Road or MTB? They have different pull ratios.

Until that is clear, any suggestions on brake levers is a waste of time.

Also, what kind of brakes does you touring bike have that goes with these levers you like?
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
What KIND of mechanical disc brakes are these? Road or MTB? They have different pull ratios.

Until that is clear, any suggestions on brake levers is a waste of time.

Also, what kind of brakes does you touring bike have that goes with these levers you like?
TRP Spyre discs that came with road levers (the bike was billed as a bikepacker). My touring bike has V-Brakes. THX!
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
TRP Spyre discs that came with road levers!
These would work: https://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=207
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Originally Posted by cobba
Yep. Or these: https://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-R5...d-Brake-Levers

You want levers that say they are for road brakes or cantilever brakes (which use pretty much the same pull). That is what the Spyres are designed for.

V-brake levers will not work well with the Spyres. TRP does make a version of the calipers you have (Spykes) that are made for v-brake levers.

One thing I would suggest if you are not already doing so is to use compressionless brake housing, such as the Jagwire Pro cables/housing.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta


Yep. Or these: https://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-R5...d-Brake-Levers

You want levers that say they are for road brakes or cantilever brakes (which use pretty much the same pull). That is what the Spyres are designed for.

V-brake levers will not work well with the Spyres. TRP does make a version of the calipers you have (Spykes) that are made for v-brake levers.

One thing I would suggest if you are not already doing so is to use compressionless brake housing, such as the Jagwire Pro cables/housing.
Ok. THX. Will these "road" flat bar levers use the skinny lead barrel end or the thick lead (mountain style) barrel end?
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
Ok. THX. Will these "road" flat bar levers use the skinny lead barrel end or the thick lead (mountain style) barrel end?
Hmmm I put these exact levers on my wife's bike, but I can't remember off hand what brake end it uses. Brake cables usually come with both ends, so I usually don't think much about it. I'll check tomorrow.

Hey, not to make things more complicated (and expensive) but in my experience, if you are going with mechanical disc and flatbar levers, you will get better results using MTB calipers with MTB (v-brake) levers as opposed to road calipers with road flat bar levers. They reason is the cable pull of the MTB system is longer and it requires less tension on the cables, which means less flex in the cable housing which means less mushy brakes. Not that a road system can't work pretty well (especially with the Spyres), its just something I wanted to throw out there since you are trying to get better performance from your brakes.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
if you are going with mechanical disc and flatbar levers, you will get better results using MTB calipers with MTB (v-brake) levers as opposed to road calipers with road flat bar levers. They reason is the cable pull of the MTB system is longer and it requires less tension on the cables, which means less flex in the cable housing which means less mushy brakes. Not that a road system can't work pretty well (especially with the Spyres), its just something I wanted to throw out there since you are trying to get better performance from your brakes.
Thx. Good to know. I'll try it as is and see how it goes...
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I got the Tektro 1.0 cantilever levers and braking has never been worse in over 50 years of riding. Flexible handle, spongy and terrible stopping power...
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
I got the Tektro 1.0 cantilever levers and braking has never been worse in over 50 years of riding. Flexible handle, spongy and terrible stopping power...
OK, so you have poor braking with two different sets of levers.

Maybe the problem is not the levers. To be honest, while some levers are nicer than others, I have never found the braking power to be all THAT different from one to another.

Are you sure these are Spyers and not Spykes?

Did the brakes work well with the levers the bike came with?

What kind of brake cables/housing are you using? You should be using compressionless housing.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta


OK, so you have poor braking with two different sets of levers.

Maybe the problem is not the levers. To be honest, while some levers are nicer than others, I have never found the braking power to be all THAT different from one to another.

Are you sure these are Spyers and not Spykes?

Did the brakes work well with the levers the bike came with?

What kind of brake cables/housing are you using? You should be using compressionless housing.
They are Spyres that came stock with the bike, but it had TRP drop bar road levers. I used the original/new condition Jagwire compressionless cables with the first set of levers, the 319A, on butterfly bars. I threw out the bars and swapped a flat bar, and needed longer cable, so I bought standard Shimano cabling for the new Tektro 1.0s.

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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Hey, not to make things more complicated (and expensive) but in my experience, if you are going with mechanical disc and flatbar levers, you will get better results using MTB calipers with MTB (v-brake) levers as opposed to road calipers with road flat bar levers. They reason is the cable pull of the MTB system is longer and it requires less tension on the cables, which means less flex in the cable housing which means less mushy brakes. Not that a road system can't work pretty well (especially with the Spyres), its just something I wanted to throw out there since you are trying to get better performance from your brakes.
I think I may have to go this route. I simply can't deal with the mushiness and lack of control... Could you suggest a serviceable model AND will it fit right in w/o any other mods? Thx!
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
I think I may have to go this route. I simply can't deal with the mushiness and lack of control... Could you suggest a serviceable model AND will it fit right in w/o any other mods? Thx!
Which calipers you use will depend somewhat on what sort of mounts your bike has. Are these I.S mount, post mount, or flat mount?
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Which calipers you use will depend somewhat on what sort of mounts your bike has. Are these I.S mount, post mount, or flat mount?
The front is mounted sideways on the back side of the fork, screw centers about 74mm apart. The rear is mounted on the top side of the chain stay, and screw centers about 74mm apart.

Boy, I'm really getting tired of all the different standards (or lack thereof) in bike stuff... Thx!

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Originally Posted by michaelm101
The front is mounted sideways on the back side of the fork, screw centers about 75mm apart. The rear is mounted on the top side of the chain stay, and screw centers about 73mm apart.

Boy, I'm really getting tired of all the different standards (or lack thereof) in bike stuff... Thx!
I'm either going to need to see pics or have you look up what you've got.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
I'm either going to need to see pics or have you look up what you've got.
Here you go:

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