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I should have mentioned the sealant I used once and experienced the hardening with was Effetto Mariposa. But I can probably blame myself. I let the bike sit for over 6 months without moving it.
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Thank you. I was just about to post the question
"How long is too long for tubulars to sit with sealant?"
In late August I installed brand new Continental Competitions and they were not cheap!
Within 100 miles I had a pinhole leak. I added Orange Seal inspite of warnings from friends that it would harden in my tire. I calculated it was better to have some life out of the tire than no life.
I'd still like to see more than two-three months of riding on this tire.
I live in Southern Ontario and wonder if the sealant gets cold enough and freezes, will it harden and stay hard?
If I take each bike and spin the wheels once each month for say twenty to thirty revolutions will that be enough? I can't really ride a road bike here between say mid December until early April. I don't really have a place to store wheels in the house.
Thank you. I was just about to post the question
"How long is too long for tubulars to sit with sealant?"
In late August I installed brand new Continental Competitions and they were not cheap!
Within 100 miles I had a pinhole leak. I added Orange Seal inspite of warnings from friends that it would harden in my tire. I calculated it was better to have some life out of the tire than no life.
I'd still like to see more than two-three months of riding on this tire.
I live in Southern Ontario and wonder if the sealant gets cold enough and freezes, will it harden and stay hard?
If I take each bike and spin the wheels once each month for say twenty to thirty revolutions will that be enough? I can't really ride a road bike here between say mid December until early April. I don't really have a place to store wheels in the house.
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Ah Ha ! I have a tube of that sealant, unopened, since 2020, it is like jelly. I ordered some new Tufo sealant for this current project. KB
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Okay Guys, Here's another discussion , I just checked a set of wheels that have been hanging for 3 years . I can here solidified sealant in one of the tubs. Brand new set of Conti Giro's. Add some sealant and use them or loose them ? I do believe i was using Stan's at the time I mounted the tubs.
Moving forward, I'm going to stay with Tufo Tubs. Use Tufo sealant and carry a Stealth Tubeless Puncture Plug 75% Off (@ Muc-Off) . And as PastorBob suggests , rotate the wheels once a month or so .
Thanks
Moving forward, I'm going to stay with Tufo Tubs. Use Tufo sealant and carry a Stealth Tubeless Puncture Plug 75% Off (@ Muc-Off) . And as PastorBob suggests , rotate the wheels once a month or so .
Thanks
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I will be experimenting with tubular tape for the first time. Ellen and I are headed out to Portland to visit our son and grandson. I'll be working in a bike I've yet to lay my eyes on. I shipped out a couple packages with parts and tools, but forgot to send any glue for the tubular rims. I didn't think it worth the risk to try and carry a can of Mastik One on the flight (> 3.5oz & flammable to boot). I could have tried to buy some locally or shipped to a local shop (@gugie said there's a Universal Cycles shop in Beaverton). Instead, I opted for some Jantex tape bought from Amazon which should arrive at my son's place on Monday.
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I will be experimenting with tubular tape for the first time. Ellen and I are headed out to Portland to visit our son and grandson. I'll be working in a bike I've yet to lay my eyes on. I shipped out a couple packages with parts and tools, but forgot to send any glue for the tubular rims. I didn't think it worth the risk to try and carry a can of Mastik One on the flight (> 3.5oz & flammable to boot). I could have tried to buy some locally or shipped to a local shop (@gugie said there's a Universal Cycles shop in Beaverton). Instead, I opted for some Jantex tape bought from Amazon which should arrive at my son's place on Monday.
I haven't tried to take a tire off yet. Don't know what I am in for. I hope my hands and a steel tire iron are up for the job.
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Hello everyone,
I want to reuse an already and 1.5 year ago glued 28mm tubular on another rim. Can i just take off the tubular and put it onto the other rim and do I need/can clean the 28mm tubular before I put it on the new rim?
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I want to reuse an already and 1.5 year ago glued 28mm tubular on another rim. Can i just take off the tubular and put it onto the other rim and do I need/can clean the 28mm tubular before I put it on the new rim?
Thank you.
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If there is no glue on the other rim, I’d put two thin layers of glue on it and move the tire over. I just did something similar. There was glue already on the other rim so I put one thin fresh layer and moved the tire over. .
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I'd probably add a little fresh glue to the tire after you pull it off, and let it get tacky before you put it on the new rim... which of course should be prepped as noted.
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Thank you for the feedback.
If I want to re-use the rim, from which I took the tire off (glued 1.5 years ago), should I remove all glue and prep it again or could I just add a layer of glue and get a new and prepped tubular on?
If I want to re-use the rim, from which I took the tire off (glued 1.5 years ago), should I remove all glue and prep it again or could I just add a layer of glue and get a new and prepped tubular on?
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Unless the base glue is so thick and knobby that the base tape won't get good adhesion, just apply your fresh glue over the old. The base glue has to get more than a little nasty before I'll strip a rim as it's a truly awful job.
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@ascherer - Thanks for that post. 3 ordered. They will fit on the Bianchi but not the Pin or De Rosa.
WRT sealant solidifying, I don't use it because of that feature. I don't ride enough, and I have a number of choices to ride. I would rather fix a flat than throw an " expensive" good tire away.
WRT sealant solidifying, I don't use it because of that feature. I don't ride enough, and I have a number of choices to ride. I would rather fix a flat than throw an " expensive" good tire away.
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Easy solution: ride more. More seriously, Stan's has saved my bacon a number of times this past summer, and while I'll freely admit that it makes patching a tire more painful, it's IMNSHO well worth the bother. Also, It doesn't hurt to spin the wheels every now and then just to redistribute the stuff even if you're not riding.
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Laced, dished, and trued. I got lucky and was able to directly swap these rims into a wheel set with Super Champion Gentleman rims using the same spokes with new nipples.
Schwinn-Approved “330” tubular rims (may be Super Champion Arc en Ciel), Campagnolo Nuovo Record high-flange hubs, DT 14 gauge/2.0mm spokes, Vittoria Corsa Graphene 2.0 30mm tires. For now the tires are stretching until a shipment of Effeto Mariposa Carogna adhesive arrives. Can’t wait to try them!
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Easy solution: ride more. More seriously, Stan's has saved my bacon a number of times this past summer, and while I'll freely admit that it makes patching a tire more painful, it's IMNSHO well worth the bother. Also, It doesn't hurt to spin the wheels every now and then just to redistribute the stuff even if you're not riding.
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Mucking up a good latex inner tube with tubeless sealant just seems like a waste to me. Even if you stay on top of maintenance, you are only prolonging the inevitable. Eventually that latex tube inside your tubular is going to start acting funny. Inflating and deflating will get dodgy I would think. And the lovely low rolling resistance afforded by latex tubes I would think would be sacrificed for flat prevention from the latex sealant.
Yes, inflating and deflating gets dodgy, but not quickly in my experience with the one ounce of sealant I add. And replacing valves is just not very hard. My plan is to send a box worth of tubulars to one of those repair guys to retube the worthy ones when I get there. Sounds to me like they have the procedure down pat and have the hands to do it.
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I'm getting back into tubulars after 25 years off. Street glass and debris is a bigger problem now than it was back then. An ounce of sealant has (so far/knock on wood) meant fewer flats than the old days. A real blessing with the arthritis in my hands. I remember how hard it was to pull off the base tape to repair tires back then with my hands at their strongest.
Yes, inflating and deflating gets dodgy, but not quickly in my experience with the one ounce of sealant I add. And replacing valves is just not very hard. My plan is to send a box worth of tubulars to one of those repair guys to retube the worthy ones when I get there. Sounds to me like they have the procedure down pat and have the hands to do it.
Yes, inflating and deflating gets dodgy, but not quickly in my experience with the one ounce of sealant I add. And replacing valves is just not very hard. My plan is to send a box worth of tubulars to one of those repair guys to retube the worthy ones when I get there. Sounds to me like they have the procedure down pat and have the hands to do it.
Edit: turns out they charge $42 to put in a new butyl inner tube and base tape: PRICES | tirealert
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That has not been my experience, but you do you. Again, this season, Stan's has saved my bacon on multiple occasions, so I think I will continue the practice. Also, the Veloflex sew-ups I like to ride are pushing $100 a piece, so I'd like to get as much value (km) out of them as I can.
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