atwl77

Apparently they do make handlebars for people like you:
https://cyclingtips.com/2020/12/the-...d-ultra-weird/

Carbonfiberboy 

IMO it's a signal that it's possible the all hell could break loose, so be aware that I'm only holding on with one hand, only have my front brake, etc. Nothing to do with holding one's line, just that things could go more wrong right now than usual. Nothing ever has, at least not IME, but I've never had an issue with people taking extra care in a paceline. I guess you do, which is not my problem. That's evidently a serious problem for you, having wasted 7 posts over it. One would think you'd rather be doing something useful.

You could do a useful experiment: While drinking, jam on that left brake (assuming you're right handed), like an animal just ran in front of you. What happens?

cubewheels

The good news is I'll never be able to afford it!

I still won't buy if I'm rich. It's too high for me. I want my handlebar real low. Unless they can customize it to have the tops curve downwards towards the ramps to slam it down.

tomato coupe

Wow dude, take a pill. I just wanted to know what was the point of holding a bottle at arms length before you take a drink from it. I've never seen anyone do this.

Carbonfiberboy 

OK. When I first saw it, I thought the reason was obvious. I get why racers would never do that, but in a recreational paceline, it makes sense, at least to me..

asgelle

In other words they’re signaling they’re about to do something dangerous and expect everyone behind them to deal with it. I prefer riding with people who take care of themselves and don’t expect others in the group to accommodate their dangerous moves. Then again, the people I ride with can generally reach down for a bottle and drink without putting others at risk.

canklecat

That's an attempt at refining a position some pros and amateurs are already using -- turning the hoods in toward the stem to get a better position for solo breakaways and time trials with regular road bikes. See the January 2020 Vuelta a San Juan, dominated by Remco Evenopoel who used that position to excellent effect on the time trial.

This Canadian cyclist's video demonstrates his experiment with that position, along with the pros (works as described) and cons (less stable when standing to climb). And I see from his September 2020 followup video from a crit that he was still using that position, with the hoods angled inward, to get a better position on the hoods with forearms parallel with the ground.



Some participants at the Vuelta a San Juan TT stage can be seen using the rather exaggerated inward angled hood position, more so than Evenepoel, who mostly used the puppy paws/invisible aero bar position to get as aero as possible on a road bike.


Some folks would probably find the Speeco bar twitchy and not a great choice for some races and terrain.

cubewheels

That's one of the things I did when I setup my gravel bike right after purchase.

However, I put it back to normal position. I have Sensah Ignite shifters and I think the shifters isn't supposed to be used in that position and made using the levers on the the drops more difficult.

I might have put up with it if I'll never be on the drops. But I alternate between drops and hoods if I can't be on TT position.

And still more comfortable for me for the hoods to be pointing forward when I'm out of the saddle and my hands are on the hoods.

noodle soup

I'm not the one that suggested this was a good idea(or even seen it done).

WhyFi

Speeco just released a set of bars perfect for the OP -

Carbonfiberboy 

You're another one who doesn't get it.

Rides4Beer

I wouldn't pay that much, but I really like them. I've been practicing that position, it's def faster, but really works your triceps. A bar that better supports that position (when you're out front or solo), while also allowing you to ride on the hoods/drops safely (like when you're in a group), sounds great.

WhyFi

Count me among those that don't get it, either. If you think that it's hazardous enough that you need to let people behind you know that you're going to do it, I reckon it's hazardous enough to just do it when you're on the back or when the pace slows. *shrug*

woodcraft

+1

A similarly mystifying convention I've come across has the leader of a paceline shout "HOLE" when they see something,

causing everyone behind to flinch and possibly wobble just from the noise, but does nothing to help locate or avoid the spot.

sarhog

Add me to the list of “doesn’t get it”.

What do you PNW riders do when you’re pointing out a pothole, and an animal darts out? What if that happens when you’re giving the “I’m going to stand” signal??
What if the leader is pointing at a hole, the second rider is signaling to stand, and an animal darts out in front of the third guy? At the SAME TIME???

caloso

If the rider on the front calls out "hole" then everyone behind is on notice to look for a hole. It might require a bunnyhop, or it might not require anything at all. But no one should be wobbling. And the rider on the front should be doing everything possible to avoid leading the group into a hole to begin with.

Reflector Guy

If I'm the fourth guy, obviously I'd do nothing. Because I'm probably taking a drink by about that time.

woodcraft

The person I most associate this with was a woman with a large, loud personality, encountered on several double century events.

Her blood-curdling yell would cause the entire group of relatively experienced riders to bobble slightly.

Atlas Shrugged

Paceline Riding: "Those who have crashed because of it and those who will eventually crash." When riding with my friends and others we ride pretty spaced out and there is minimal if any drafting going on. Once we hit middle age+ just didn't see the necessity anymore, it increases the risk of crashing substantially, reduces the ability to focus and enjoy the effort. I found over the years in a large group of riders you get the usual paceline scolds, sloppy dangerous riders, the unprepared dude, obnoxious road ragers etc. I will take a small group of friends out for a challenging day and fun post-ride bs session any day.

tomato coupe

If you yell loud enough, you can scare the hole, and it will run away before the group gets to it.

Atlas Shrugged

I recall we had a guy who would scream "CAR BACK" whenever a vehicle approached from the rear. Startled you every time and when out on a quiet road in the zone would scare the crap out you. I replaced him with a Garmin Varia and have ridden in peace since.

caloso

To each his own, but I actually get a lot of enjoyment from the teamwork and camaraderie of a well-executed paceline. You go farther and faster than you could on your own. If you're doing a double rotation with a decent sized group, you get a chance to chat with friends while you recover. Maybe I'm lucky that for me that means team rides where I know and trust the other riders. Even on the local hammerfests, it's a small enough community that everyone knows the sketchy riders and they eventually shape up or stop coming.

It's the thing I miss most about pre-pandemic riding, actually.

rubiksoval

I think I would love those bars right up until the moment I stood up and crushed my knee cap on the bar...

cubewheels

The rider is probably too gigantic for the bike

rubiksoval

I'm pretty sure that's a pro rider and those bars were custom-made for him, so he's probably pretty dialed in on that bike.

Looks spot-on...until he tries to sprint?