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Old 12-21-20, 11:54 AM
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Does riding with cagers boost your adrenaline?

Do you like it? Of course I'd prefer not to be around cars. But when I'm next to tons(literally and numerically) of cars during rush hour my senses are certainly heightened. Isn't that what happens when you take cocaine or meth?
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"Cagers".

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Originally Posted by burritos View Post
Isn't that what happens when you take cocaine or meth?
Experience?
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I cringe every time I hear the word "cagers." using that term is a good indication that a cyclist is a self-martyring elitist. a vast majority of people outside of densely-packed cities also drive cars.
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
I cringe every time I hear the word "cagers." using that term is a good indication that a cyclist is a self-martyring elitist. a vast majority of people outside of densely-packed cities also drive cars.
I apologize. I picked that up from this board about 2 months ago after I joined. Had to google it. Was trying fit in. Don't weave in and out. Though if there are no cars around I will make a left on a red arrow.
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Huh?

cager

Noun
cag·​er | \ ˈkājə(r) \
plural -s

Definition of cager



1a: a worker who loads and unloads cages and gives hoisting signals — called also cageman, cage tender, onsetter, skip tender

b: a mechanical apparatus for pushing cars on or off a cage
2: a basketball player
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Experience?
Curious, though never tried. That's why it's a question.
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Old 12-21-20, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
Huh?

cager

Noun
cag·​er | \ ˈkājə(r) \
plural -s

Definition of cager



1a: a worker who loads and unloads cages and gives hoisting signals — called also cageman, cage tender, onsetter, skip tender

b: a mechanical apparatus for pushing cars on or off a cage
2: a basketball player
According to here:
https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting...hat-cager.html
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Originally Posted by burritos View Post
I went with Merriam Webster more reliable then some random Internet forum.

Just ride your bike and don't do drugs!
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Old 12-21-20, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
I went with Merriam Webster more reliable then some random Internet forum.

Just ride your bike and don't do drugs!
Biking is my drug. Intensity and quality of experience varies with conditions, environment, location, etc...
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Originally Posted by burritos View Post
Do you like it? Of course I'd prefer not to be around cars. But when I'm next to tons(literally and numerically) of cars during rush hour my senses are certainly heightened. Isn't that what happens when you take cocaine or meth?
Yes, but I find my tolerance keeps rising so I need ever increasing doses for the same high.
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Originally Posted by burritos View Post
Do you like it? Of course I'd prefer not to be around cars. But when I'm next to tons(literally and numerically) of cars during rush hour my senses are certainly heightened. Isn't that what happens when you take cocaine or meth?

Yes it does
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I'd think a using a definition from the site you're on would be reasonable. I'm occasionally a cager, though I spend more time on my bike.

Back to the original question. Adrenaline? Not usually, I've been riding with other traffic long enough I'm mostly inured to it. There are a few exceptions, when I've hopped on the only road around only to find high volume, high speed traffic, and nowhere to run. That'll get my heart pumping!
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Am I more aware of my surroundings when my surroundings demand that I be more aware in order to be safe and survive?

Suddenly the question seems rather silly.

I mean, if I ma riding swiftly along an MUP with some piles of leaves, some blind turns, , a few issues with pavement ---- I am more aware and alert than when I am cruising down a wide straight MUP with perfect pavement where I can see for half a mile.

Almost as if cars were not a part of it at all ......

I have done decades of ugly urban commuting. I learned to coexist.

As for the comparison between riding with cars and doing drugs .... nothing related. Some guy who used to look just like I used to look back in the day tried everything and reports back that you shouldn't get confused so easily.

That's like saying sticking your hand under a heat lamp is just like being out in the sun in a hot day because both make your skin warm---and both a re basically like falling into a campfire .... it is like saying that all experiences in life are similar because you are breathing during all of them.

Don't do drugs. Ride your bike.

I was going to jump on you for the "cagers"remark, but nah. You meant well. You seem like a decent person who just hasn't done drugs ... which means you have a slightly narrower range of experience and a lot less avoidable damage. You are way ahead of the game.

Try qigong. Once I started practicing Falun Dafa I stopped smoking my daily two or three clove cigarettes, and in time stopped all extracurricular medication. There really are better ways to get high---takes more work but well worth it.
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From the Urban Dictionary, since the more ahem, senior respondents were going to Webster’s:

cager
a popular word among motorcyclists and bicyclists for four wheeled motor vehicle drivers. The term is often used in a derogativesense, because the car body effectively forms a cage, isolating the said driver from having to interact with other road users.

The term was coined by motorcyclists.

Personally don’t have a problem with the word. So many words have morphed over time and made it into “legitimate” dictionaries, it’s probably just a matter of time. Hard to stop progress, even if it appears backwards. I first thought a cager was U.K. slang, maybe like a punter.

I used to commute out of downtown Seattle at rush hour in the thick of busses, taxis, motorcycles and countless cars cutting back and forth around stopped busses, avoiding idiots not paying attention and first responders on a tear. It was exciting with all senses at the max. Was it like any drugs I took? Nope, more like having 3 big cups of coffee.

I ride a two lane highway with a 55 limit with lots of semis and dump trucks. I can’t avoid it if I want to get home. It definitely motivates me to get off it as quickly as possible. The unfortunate thing is that it’s uphill. The only drug there is called fear.
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Originally Posted by burritos View Post
Do you like it? Of course I'd prefer not to be around cars. But when I'm next to tons(literally and numerically) of cars during rush hour my senses are certainly heightened. Isn't that what happens when you take cocaine or meth?
My riding conditions is in the middle of a very densely populated city in a poor, 3d world country. So even outside of rush hour, I still had to zig zag around cars in the road.

No, I don't like it. The adrenaline rush couldn't make up for it. It was fun at first but the stress of dealing with these dangerous situations catches up eventually. Not to mention, the exhaust fumes you breath from the cars, not very healthy.

In the end, I end up heading out very learning in the morning when the traffic volume is a lot less.
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So, laying aside the use of the word "cagers", the answer is yes. But it's not a low level continuous boost of adrenaline, which wouldn't be physiologically healthy at all (weight gain, heart and blood vessel deterioration, insomnia, etc.). I hope that this isn't what the OP is asking, because the question is imprecise.

Rather, the once-in-a-while encounters that cause you to veer, brake hard to avoid collision, or jump out of your skin because of a near death experience of some sort, these cause larger adrenaline dumps that last for a few minutes. My normal response is rage and feelings of fear, as when smaller prey escape sure death. Adrenaline is a good thing, but surely not in daily doses.
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Just curious, what offensive word do drivers refer to bikers with? Anyone?
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Cager is outlaw biker talk. Biker is also outlaw biker talk--a biker being a particular type of motorcyclist, an outlaw type. This goes back to at least the 1960s when I became aware of the terms. It's odd to see bicyclists talking so.

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Is this thread about old-timey basketball players?
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Cager is outlaw biker talk. Biker is also outlaw biker talk--a biker being a particular type of motorcyclist, an outlaw type. This goes back to at least the 1960s when I became aware of the terms. It's odd to see bicyclists talking so.
Remember Twin Peaks bar in Waco? Now that was some outlaw biker action...


I don't see any cyclists in the group, though.
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Terminology aside, as I understand it, boosting your awareness and reflexes when you're in danger is the purpose of adrenaline, so I'd guess probably yes.

Do I enjoy seeking out this kind of adrenaline boost? No.
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I do not flinch from riding in traffic, and I sometimes enjoy it, but I don't particularly do it for the rush. In fact, if I get a rush from anything other than some good downhill speed or traffic flow, that's probably a bad thing. I'll see if I can dig out one of my downtown LA videos from when I commuted for a couple of years.

Edit: It took me forever to figure out "cagers" around here. The term does sometimes cross my mind when I'm riding in traffic, I'll admit. At least now I know where it comes from.
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I dont think my adrenaline is higher when I ride in traffic. I am certainly more aware, but I definitely dont feel a burst of adrenaline just because cars are near me. That would be exhausting, actually as I wouldnt want the adrenaline crash afterwards.
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Just curious, what offensive word do drivers refer to bikers with? Anyone?
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