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Old 03-25-24, 02:45 PM
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Help identify Campagnolo Cassette Parts please

I got a pile of parts a while back and I am just getting to sorting through them. I had 2 boxes with what I thought were Miche cassettes (dis-assembled) & 1 zip-tie with additional rings. Pulled them out of the box and discovered they are Campagnolo. Took some pics and trying to figure out, what I have? If they are complete? If they are with the right grouping? I will be passing these along to someone else who will use them.

Box 1


Box 2


These were on a zip-tie - no visible branding


Probably not helpful, but these are the boxes they were in

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That's a bit of a head scratcher. At first glance I was thinking 9 speed, but I didn't think Campagnolo offered a 28T sprocket with their 9 speed cassettes. There was a 28T available with 8 speed, but it was 28A, not 28B.

From 1998 the three largest sprockets came assembled together, so that really only leaves us with 1997.

Could they be titanium? If you look at the 8 speed titanium cassette from 1997, the largest sprocket has a similar webbing to yours: https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...7_page_65.html

Yours are definitely 9 speed or later though due to the notch in the spine tabs.
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one more detail - don't know if it helps - I haven't really messed with cassettes

Edit - Confirmed this is a Campagnolo 9/10 speed lock-ring

detail shot of "lock ring" - both are the same

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Originally Posted by P!N20
That's a bit of a head scratcher. At first glance I was thinking 9 speed, but I didn't think Campagnolo offered a 28T sprocket with their 9 speed cassettes. There was a 28T available with 8 speed, but it was 28A, not 28B.

From 1998 the three largest sprockets came assembled together, so that really only leaves us with 1997.

Could they be titanium? If you look at the 8 speed titanium cassette from 1997, the largest sprocket has a similar webbing to yours: https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...7_page_65.html

Yours are definitely 9 speed or later though due to the notch in the spine tabs.
There are Campy 9-speed 28s. I've got one. Haven't gone back to my shop to pull a cog and compare to these photos but they sure look like 9-speeds to me. The 13CA and 12 tooth ? are outside cogs. The 13 tooth ? is an inner to be used with the 12. That array, 12-19, 21, 23, 25 and 28 are all the 9-speed options (I believe) save the 14 tooth outer. (I have that also.) 19, 21, 23 often came as a unit rather than single cogs. (I believe the unit is intended for the top of the line hubs with aluminum cassette carriers and the single cogs for the steel carriered Veloces and Choruses.)

My large cogs don't have the raked back spiders. (With Chorus and Veloce you aren't paying for s**y.)
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See the attached photo of my 13-23 Campy Veloce 9-speed cassette. All cogs except for the smallest (13) are marked Campagnolo. I therefore think that your other cogs are most likely Miche.





You can download any number of Campy spare parts catalogs from the Campy website; search under 'documentation'. My 2000 Campy spares catalog (part C) shows several ratios available for 9 speed cassettes which have individual cogs; one cassette is available as 13-28.

The same spares catalog also lists lockrings; my 9 speed lockring measures 26mm in thread diameter, while the 9/10 speed lockring for oversized aluminum axle hubs has a 27mm thread diameter.
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Originally Posted by Andrew_G
See the attached photo of my 13-23 Campy Veloce 9-speed cassette. All cogs except for the smallest (13) are marked Campagnolo. I therefore think that your other cogs are most likely Miche.





You can download any number of Campy spare parts catalogs from the Campy website; search under 'documentation'. My 2000 Campy spares catalog (part C) shows several ratios available for 9 speed cassettes which have individual cogs; one cassette is available as 13-28.

The same spares catalog also lists lockrings; my 9 speed lockring measures 26mm in thread diameter, while the 9/10 speed lockring for oversized aluminum axle hubs has a 27mm thread diameter.
Thanks, good info

All the cogs on the cardboard are marked Campagnolo (just hard to see), just the new ones on the paper are un-marked - Maybe they are Miche?. That said, when I typed "Campagnolo 9 speed cassette 13-28" the first thing that came up was the Miche Primato (like the boxes above) but they don't seem to have the holes near the teeth like the campy ones do.

This might be the one? https://nonstopciclismo.com/products...38168697209009

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I have a 9s Campy cassette on my Monti Special. Large cog is 28T. As 79pmooney indicated, it was "a thing."

Branford Bike has some decoding help on their website:

https://branfordbike.com/new-page-1

I haven't yet got enough coffee in me, and am just looking at your pix on my phone, so I'm currently no use decoding things...

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Originally Posted by smontanaro
I have a 9s Campy cassette on my Monti Special. Large cog is 28T. As 79pmooney indicated, it was "a thing."

Branford Bike has some decoding help on their website:

https://branfordbike.com/new-page-1

I haven't yet got enough coffee in me, and am just looking at your pix on my phone, so I'm currently no use decoding things...

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One take away from your link is mine seem to be Ultra drive, rather than Exa drive.
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The first 2 pics show complete Campy 9-speed cassettes. Not 8 or 10 or 11 speed; I can tell from the cog shapes.

The third pic shows some Miche cogs that should be 9-speed compatible. Don't know what mystery is in the boxes.
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seem to both be Veloce?
one 14-28 the other 13-26 (cleaned them up so I could see)

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Thanks for the help everyone. These will be up in the "For Trade" section in the near-ish future, along with a bunch of other resto-mod/not quite C&V parts
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
Don't know what mystery is in the boxes.
Probably just a red herring, boxes are empty. The cogs were in those boxes, my guess is he took these (Campy) off and replaced with the Miche parts from the boxes. There were other Miche parts that came with this collection.
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Originally Posted by SoCaled
Probably just a red herring, boxes are empty. The cogs were in those boxes, my guess is he took these (Campy) off and replaced with the Miche parts from the boxes. There were other Miche parts that came with this collection.
Makes sense, although I've used both Campagnolo and Miche cassettes extensively, and all things being equal, the Campy cassettes simply shift better. The 2 complete Campy cassettes don't look excessively worn to my eye.

I see a lot of this phenomenon in the used parts market: that someone removes their old parts, and dumps them into the replacements box. This box of used stuff then makes its way to an unsuspecting seller, who only goes off of the description on the box. Buyer beware.
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