roasterrider

Hey,

Anybody know what the deal is with the new Madone that some of the Team Discovery riders have been on? I heard many of the guys won't ride it because the frame wasn't designed to work with an SRM? Is that True?

The guy at my local shop told me that Trek has moved much if not all of its high-end carbon bike production to the Giant bicycle factory in Asia. I guess all high-end bikes used to be made in their main Wisconsin factory, but they've moved all the production to Asia? What's up with that? Now that Lance is gone, they go and ship production off to another--and not too well respected--bike company? The bike sure looks like a Giant.

Does anyone know if the new Madone is any good? I love my old one. Well, it's a 2005 bike, so it's not too old.

Check out UF-BRO https://veloz.vox.com

raptor3x

That's one of the most pathetic photoshop jobs I've ever seen. I'm not even going to get into the "not too well respected" snipe.

alanfleisig

Whatever else it is, the "Trek" on that web page is not the new Madone. Check out the batwing on the seat-tube. That was gone never to return last year.

KenHuffman

The bikes made of "TCT Carbon" are made in Taiwan. The Madones are still made in the US.

roasterrider

Not sure if those images are a photoshop job or not, but here's another link to something about the bike.

https://bp2.blogger.com/_VMBXGqBOWsE/...prototypes.jpg

fzrdave

And here is the new Madone: https://www.velonews.com/tech/report/...s/12366.0.html.

It looks pretty cool! It might be time to finally trade in the old 5200.

Kris Flatlander

What's up with all the noobs in this thread anyways? Seems like an ultra-high concentration for some reason.

merlinextraligh

Ok, I'll feed the Troll. Giant makes more CF bikes than anyone in the world, and has been making CF bikes as long or longer than anyone currently making CF bikes.

T Mobile is sufficiently satisfied with their TCR Team Advanced that T Mobile extended their deal with Giant through 2010.

Colnago is sufficently satisfied with Giant, that Gaint now builds certain Colnagos.

Giant has an excellent reputation for reliabilty . My LBS is a long time Giant dealer, and formerly a Trek dealer. They have had many warranty claims on Trek CF bikes but have never had a single warranty claim on a Giant CF frame.

The Giant name may not have the same cache as some other brands. However that simply means that you can buy a Giant for a grand less than a comparable Colnago.

bailcash09

I saw a thread on the new madone a few days ago. It looks more like an Orbea Orca, not a Giant TCR. check out trek website here. The thread is here. It has some good pictures.

BillyBob1

I just bought a 4.5 Madone. It is made in Taiwan. The high end Madones are still made in the US.

Triguy

Someone already said it. Trek OCLV is made in Wisconsin. Trek did take a step in the direction of a lot of new fads with it's new madone series. Including 1 1/2 inch lower bearing fork, integrated bottom bracket, and ISP. I have not ridden a bike with all of these new features but such large headtubes, and integrated seattubes really seem to be solving non-existent problems.

On the other hand it's what the market is demanding in high end bikes, and I'm not buying high end bikes, so my word doesn't mean much.

Your lbs should hang out with the one that said R3s are prone to failure.

damocles1

If you haven't ridden one of the bikes with the aforementioned features, then shut your hole.

The seatmast is a weight issue and dampens shock a little better than an aluminum tube under your taint.
The oversized lower bearing increases stiffness in the front end. The bike tracks straighter, turns better and just feels more stable.

As for the integrated BB, the jury is still out on that one.

I'm a Trek hater, but please don't venture opinions unless you've actually ridden what you are pontificating on.

FlashBazbo

I HAVE ridden bikes with some or all of the features of the new Madone. I have to say that they ARE rather gimicky. I have never noticed a problem with quality components of the old dimensions. I mean, how much do you have to WEIGH to get flex from a conventionally-sized bottom headtube bearing -- so much that your bike doesn't track straight?! YIKES! If I ever get THAT heavy, I'll be on life support somewhere and they'll be shopping for piano crates to bury me in!

cycle17

Correct with one exception. The "4" series Madones have TCT Carbon Frames made in Taiwan. The "5" Series Madones and above are OCLV carbon made in Trek's Wisconsin plant by hand.