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Old 06-29-18, 06:50 AM
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my only con on it would be 38t max chainring limit.

However!!! for single track, jeep road, off the beaten path, hills! , loads, extra water, I am guessing that coasting down the hills, and plodding along the flat ridges enjoying the views a 36 or 38 is enough.
Ah, I didn't know about that limit. I wonder if you could put a double crankset on there? Probably too wide huh?
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Ah, I didn't know about that limit. I wonder if you could put a double crankset on there? Probably too wide huh?
as far as I know, no double, no triple, and its a 38t limit 1x.
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Originally Posted by Metieval
as far as I know, no double, no triple, and its a 38t limit 1x.
Actually I just read you can do double, and even triple, with limits.
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Actually I just read you can do double, and even triple, with limits.
ohh? good news then! Oh they said they couldn't because no cable stop on it. easy fix though I guess
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Back with my OT measured weight of the Specialized Sequoia Elite (with Crank Bros Candy 7 pedals). 28.4 pounds.
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I can't imagine a 50/34x11/32 will do it since that is the same gearing on my road bike.
On my phone, so if it’s already been addressed, my apologies.

IMHO, that gearing is about right. Maybe up to a 34 on the back with the new Shimano cassettes. FWIW, I ride about 60:40 gravel:road, and in my experience once I got used to the difference in the surface, I found the gearing difference was less about the total range I had available and more about where I was putting the chain on the cassette.
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ohh? good news then! Oh they said they couldn't because no cable stop on it. easy fix though I guess
Yeah they changed the specs on their site not long ago. I think the max for a double was 42/28.

"Heya, what happened to the maximum chainring sizes in the description? Pretty sure it used to list the biggest chainrings you could fit on single, double and triple setups."

"The GM specs showing 2x and 3x compatibility were incorrect. The bike is 1x only and the max tooth count is 38t."

I've seen a guy running a double on instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bjdbkbyh...by=darkshizzle

So yeah, you need to shim the FD and come up with some sort of a cable stop.

(I just went down from a 42 to a 38 paired with a 10-42 cassette and i'm loving it, but that's another story)


Just a random thought, a new big tyre drop bar machine just came out and it's awesome:

https://fairlightcycles.com/product/...v=35b5282113b8
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Originally Posted by Badger6


On my phone, so if it’s already been addressed, my apologies.

IMHO, that gearing is about right. Maybe up to a 34 on the back with the new Shimano cassettes. FWIW, I ride about 60:40 gravel:road, and in my experience once I got used to the difference in the surface, I found the gearing difference was less about the total range I had available and more about where I was putting the chain on the cassette.
I think cycling in the Catskill Mountains of New York is steeper than most people realize. I could be wrong, but I would think gravel trails/passages need lower gearing than a road bike
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Originally Posted by NYMXer
I think cycling in the Catskill Mountains of New York is steeper than most people realize. I could be wrong, but I would think gravel trails/passages need lower gearing than a road bike
I think you’re right, the issue is traction, if the gearing is too tall one risks spinning the tires and wasting energy. But, in my experience, riding in Southern Germany on the edge of the Black Forest (similar to what you describe in the Catskills), I’ve used that same gearing with no issues, including on “fat slicks.” This is only my opinion and based on my personal experience.
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Raleigh Tamland 1
So....finally I bought a grave; bike from Nashbar. I bought the Raleigh Tamland 1, steel 11 speed w carbon fork

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Raleigh Tamland 1
So....finally I bought a grave; bike from Nashbar. I bought the Raleigh Tamland 1, steel 11 speed w carbon fork
Sweet, that's the exact same bike I have.
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Thanks to everyone for their input.
i did almost 13 real hilly gravel roads at Minniwaska State Park w about 1200ft elevation climbing.
The bike did better than I expected, was incredibly stable and comfortable.
i also did a 30 mile road ride, it did okay but certainly not fast over the road as it was on gravel roads.
It did take a lot of set up time, as everything was out of adjustment. Quality is better than expected for $1300
Rims are tubeless ready and I did that last night. I’m thinking of going with a lower rear cassette because on some of the steeper climbs, pedaling was hard but I always had traction.
Fun stuff riding ridges of mountain tops, but some of the climbs and descents were difficult. Oh, went w SPD’s too, a little sketchy at times but I will get used to it, or die.... lol
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Originally Posted by NYMXer
i also did a 30 mile road ride, it did okay but certainly not fast over the road as it was on gravel roads.
This is exactly why I have a SuperX now.
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The 46/30 cranks seem to be what you want. Not many makers have them on stock models but you can get a sram set up and sell the cranks and swap for a 46/30 set up .then a 11-36 cassette and your done. If you insit on shimano then absolute black has a chainring swap you can do .they're a pittle pricey not much more than a basic sram crankset but everything I read is good about them.
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Originally Posted by Rflee
The 46/30 cranks seem to be what you want. Not many makers have them on stock models but you can get a sram set up and sell the cranks and swap for a 46/30 set up .then a 11-36 cassette and your done. If you insit on shimano then absolute black has a chainring swap you can do .they're a pittle pricey not much more than a basic sram crankset but everything I read is good about them.
Thank you for that information Rflee, it was an option I was considering too. I think I would have to add a few links to the chain if I just did the rear cassette swap, but it might be enough. Then again, if it isn't, I can get the drive rings up front.
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