oldokie

Some time ago there were some forum comments about tire wipers (device to rub against tires to clean debris off while riding). At that time, I did some web browsing and found a shop in the UK selling them on their web site. However, I have not been able to find that site again. Tried a forum search on this subject as well as several Google searches with different terms but have not come up with anything.
Does anyone know of a source or an official brand name that might get a hit on Google.

I know they are seldom used any more and don't have many supporters any longer but I would like to check them out and form my own opinions.

alanbikehouston

I have not seen any since around 1975. They were very popular at that time, as many folks still used sewup tires that got flats just looking at a shard of glass. I'd bet they are sold on E-Bay, because everything made after about 1910 seems to be available on E-Bay.

mike

I have a bike or two from the 70's that has the tire wipers. I think most people didn't know what they were, or had them adjusted wrong, so they faded into antique novelty.

Apparently, the idea was to adjust the tire wiper so that came as close as possible to the tire without actually touching it. If a shard of glass or debri caught on the tire, it was supposed to get knocked off by the tire wiper during the first rotation of the tire before the debri had a chance to get imbeded deep into the tire.

An old timer friend of mine said that the only problem with the tire wipers was that they did not work. Of course, I don't know if he had it adjusted properly. It seems that a certain amount of finess was required in adjustment and the tire had to be perfectly round and true.

Still, I like the idea. Even though I have a couple of bikes that have them, I never went to the trouble to make sure they are adjusted correctly, so they are mostly non-functional.

Coyote!

When nicely adjusted they made a beautiful quiet pulsating bzzz-hiss in time to one's cadence. As I recall, you adjusted 'em by carefully distorting the wire bale.

They were the same era as the "Flick Stand", a wire device that made a rigid connection between the front tire and the down tube [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick_stand]. . .made leaning bikes a little more stable.

Tom Stormcrowe

They were called Tire Savers, and they aren't made any more.

You can make a low tech concept of them though by cutting a triangular flap out of a 2 liter bottle, punching a mounting hole and attaching them to the brake caliper or mount hole for the caliper if you have canti's. set it so it just scrapes your contact patch of the tire and it'll help remove debris before it damages the tire.

mike

Hey, Coyote, what is a Flick Stand? I think I have one of those on an old bike, but I could never figure out what it was or how it worked. Any pics? The link you gave was a bad link. Sounds interesting.

DannoXYZ 

Tyre savers work only on a specific type of flat; those that are caused by glass and goatheads. They won't work for pinched-flats caused by hitting rocks or potholes. Nor will they work on internal issues like torn casings on the tyre or weak rim-strips.

I used to commute from Isla Vista (student-community next to UCSB) to downtown to work at Open Air Bike; an easy 13-mile ride. There was a bike-path that ran almost the entire distance, however, it often was overgrown with weeds and had ample glass and goatheads. For the first couple of months, I would never fail to get a flat at least once a week from the goatheads, even with the toughest tyre at the time, the kevlar-belted Specialized TouringS tyre. The thing is, glass and goatheads do not puncture your tire immediatly when you run them over. It requires many revolutions and squirming to work their way through. Every single goathead puncture I had showed only the 3-4mm spike of the goathead in the tyre. The big body had already been run over so many times that it wore or broke off.

So the idea with the tyre-saver is to scrape off this debris on the very 1st revolution of the tyre when you've just picked it up. You won't have your body-weight pounding that thing over and over again until it pokes through. I was rummaging through the bins and found some tyre savers, "Ah hah! Let's try this" I thought. It look about 30-minutes of bending and prying until I could get the shape of the wire to be contoured to the curve of the tyre and rest just 1-2mm above it. But you know what? I went from 1 flat a week to about 1 flat a year.

After picking up cycling again 1.5-years ago, I've had exactly 2 flats. One of them was actually my fault for installing a new wheel and didn't check the brake-pads. The rim was slightly smaller in diameter than my last one and the edge of the brake-pads ended up rubbing through the tyre. But I do take every precaution possible. I use kevlar-belted touring tyres, tyre-liners, tyre-savers and thorn-resistant tubes (thicker outside edge requires longer thorn/glass-shard to fully penetrate).

I couldn't find tyre-savers in the shops anymore, so I made my own from old spokes:



For those that don't think these work on goatheads, try an experiment yourself. Sprinkle a handful of goatheads across the path. Back up about 50ft and ride over them at normal speeds. And continue on for about 50-ft. Stop and you'll find 1-2 goatheads per tyre. Pick them out, install tyre-savers and repeat the experiment. After 50-ft stop and you'll find that there are ZERO goatheads stuck in your tyre.

The other practice that works is to rub your tyre after running through glass. You learn to recognized the sound of running over glass. Be sure to hook your thumb around back of seat-stays when rubbing rear-tyre so that your hand won't get yanked forward and stuck between the tyre and seat-tube...

Doug5150

This page still sells them, and has a couple pics (scroll down to the bottom):
https://www.melpintoimports.com/hardtofinditems.html
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As I was told, there was an old traditional way to make tire-scrapers out of old bicycle spokes....
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oldokie

I saw the one I am refering to within the past year and I am sure it was on a web site for a shop in the UK. It was still listed for sale on the web site at that time. It looked like a small spring that rubbed on the tire and appeared to be mounted via the mounting bolt for the brake caliper.

I found it interesting that when I was doing a Google search, I found a patent application from 1995 for a tire wiper. The patent application was built around a design that used some type of brush for the wiping action.

Bekologist

send an Email at Gregg's Greenlake cycle www.greggscycles.com

We've got some in a box. write a query Attn: Parts and I'll hunt you up a set.

agreed though, that they didn't really work. neat idea though.

Wil Davis

I've used "Tyre-Savers" for years; here are some pictures. If you can't find a source, you might be able to make a couple from an old spoke or coat-hanger and a couple of pieces of plastic tubing.

- Wil

mike

How about hanging a thin chain between the forks such that the chain lays lightly on the tire?

oldokie

Bingo. Doing a Google on Tyre-Savers turned up the place I had been looking for. The web site is https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product.a...VALUE&sfile=1= in the UK and they cost about 8 pounds which makes them pretty pricy with the current exchange rate.
I think I will experiment with something I make myself for now.

raywood

Another Bike Forums thread continues this discussion.

Velocivixen

Compass Cycles sells them as Tire Wipers. Here’s the link:

https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/co...s/tire-wipers/

europa

Last time I used them (for three cornered jacks, similar to your goatheads), I just took some light electrical flex (maybe 1/16 in diam or a bit more, whatever I had in the shed for the car) and tied each end around the fork so the wire dragged on the top of with tyre. It didn't look pretty but I went from a puncture every day to none in six months.

kcblair

I found 2 new, in my parts box, and 1 very lightly used, for the price of postage, if anyone wants them. KB.

thumpism 

One of our customers just used a foot or so of rawhide bootlace at each wheel, tied to and running from one side of a brake caliper over the tire to the other side of the caliper.

Shimagnolo

The guy who makes those for CC, is known as "rootboy" here on BF.

trailangel

For the zombies out there.... these are the good ones.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TWO-TIRE-SA....c100005.m1851

Arvacon

Their brand name looks promising.
Uncle Jonh's Enterprises,

jgwilliams

I had those in the 70's. You'd have trouble fitting one to a modern bike as the brake fastening nut is inset into the frame - and a good thing too. They seem to work much better than the old version, though I don't really know why they would.

fietsbob

Sheldon's nuts ...

79pmooney

Tire savers work. They also make noise and spray dirt. The dirt from the front is mostly blow-back if you mount them as shown on Post # 11. If your chainstay bridge has a bolt hole for fenders, you can minimize the mess by mounting the rear there. I used them until I started racing at which point I started becoming religious re: brushing the tires with my hands. (Sewup flats being just plain too expensive in both time and money.)

Funny, I just pulled out an old tiresaver and mounted it on my best bike which I am taking to Cycle Oregon Saturday. Tuesday we will have the option of riding a gravel stretch with 1 1/2" stones. I'm putting on the biggest tires that will fit. Rear is a 32c with 2mm maybe between it and each chainstay and derailleur clamp. I don't want a small stone ruining my week. (It is set to clear the regular 28c for the rest of the time but brush the 32c Pasela. Cycle Oregon sweeps the streets so it is redundant until we hit the gravel.)

Ben

JohnDThompson 

True, but it's the debris spray that made me stop using them. Even mounted on the chainstay bridge, I found the amount of grit that landed on my chain to be unacceptable.

N.B. if I lived in goathead country, I might well feel differently. But I don't.