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Shimano now has 1x - the GRX line

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Old 05-07-19, 09:51 AM
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Shimano now has 1x - the GRX line

This should be interesting.

Gravel/adventure is driving product development and Shimano is now in the 1x game.

The interrupter levers are cool.

Ultegra Di2 is RX815
Ultegra Mechanical is RX810
105 is RX600
Tiagra 10 speed is RX400




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But ... but ... but they make FDs that work!
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No fixed gear option???

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Does this mean we can FINALLY get a 40t cassette on a road bike without dealing with incompatibility between road and mtb components or do we need both the GRX shifters and GRX rear DR? (is the GRX rear DR compatible with ordinary road brifters ? - holding my breath)

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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
Does this mean we can FINALLY get at a 40t cassette on a road bike without dealing with incompatibility between road and mtb components or do we need both the GRX shifters and GRX rear DR?
With Di2, it shouldn't be an issue.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
With Di2, it shouldn't be an issue.
Imagine how many "how to get lower gears" questions could be answered with "get a grx rear DR and a SLX 11-40 cassette", if the grx rear DR is compatible with ordinary 11 speed brifters :-)

https://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR=D...25,28&UF2=2150

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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
Imagine how many "how to get lower gears" questions could be answered with "get a grx rear DR and a SLX 11-40 cassette", if the grx rear DR is compatible with ordinary 11 speed brifters :-)

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I'm really glad they've done something clever here to distinguish their selves. Their 1x mountain bike offerings have been years behind the market.
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42 tooth cassettes work with RX800 or 805 GS derailleurs today.

I'm running an XT 11-42 cassette with the RX805 GS derailleur right now. It uses a 1.85 mm spacer behind the cassette, B screw is flipped around and requires an entire 116 link chain. Front rings are 46/30. It shifts fine. Low gear is 19.5 inches.


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I'm also using a 11-42 rear with a RX805 + RoadLink. Works great.

At the time it took some research and finagling to get my setup working. Now we can buy it out of the box.

I am interested in the compact front chain rings for my Page Mill / Mt. Hamilton climbs. I don't think that they are compatible with rest of the R8000 road drive chain. Bummer that.

Mighty tempting to buy the full drive chain and install it on one of my bikes. For research and science
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Now that I've thought about it I think it would have been a lot easier if Shimano made their road levers work with their MTB derailleurs.

I suppose that is water under the bridge now.
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Originally Posted by pdoege
Now that I've thought about it I think it would have been a lot easier if Shimano made their road levers work with their MTB derailleurs.

I suppose that is water under the bridge now.
But is it known if GRX is road spec, mtb spec or something new? Possibly GRX IS mtb spec and wont work with existing road components?
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If those cassette cogs keep getting bigger I see applications in the TT and Triathlon markets. No need to get an aero disc rear wheel when the huge @ss cogs will do the same job.
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Originally Posted by pdoege
Now that I've thought about it I think it would have been a lot easier if Shimano made their road levers work with their MTB derailleurs.

I suppose that is water under the bridge now.

I've seen a drop bar bike with XT rear derailleur and cassette using TRP Hylex Di2 adapters.




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But is it known if GRX is road spec, mtb spec or something new? Possibly GRX IS mtb spec and wont work with existing road components?

We will find out what works with what when Shimano updates the compatibility chart.

The latest is Oct 2018.

https://e-tubeproject.shimano.com/guide/#guide_list



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Really, really good Q&A with Shimano engineers...

https://gravelcyclist.com/bicycle-te...-grx-groupset/

It explains a lot.



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TL;DR a groupset with no front derailleur.
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
TL;DR a groupset with no front derailleur.
1x and 2x crank options, including a GRX-specific front derailleur.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/shim...pset-launched/
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Really, really good Q&A with Shimano engineers...

https://gravelcyclist.com/bicycle-te...-grx-groupset/

It explains a lot.



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It explained some things, except compatibility with existing road levers.
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Just did a bit on it on the podcast. Will be second episode out from today.
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
TL;DR a groupset with no front derailleur.
Incorrect. There are front derailleurs and FD options.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Just did a bit on it on the podcast. Will be second episode out from today.
What podcast is that?
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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
What podcast is that?
Sorry - I keep thinking it's in my sig. The Road is Dead. Carried by all podcast threaders.

On the web - Road Is Dead

We are compiling and uploading 2 episodes as I type this. which is why I am still on the computer at the shop at 8:30 at night.
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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
What podcast is that?
Road is Dead. It's usually worth a listen.

Check out the Raphamart episode from a few years ago.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Incorrect. There are front derailleurs and FD options.
Thanks Dwight.
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Grrr...I published them out of order - but the one with GRX - Road Is Dead: Gravel Diatribes
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