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Old 01-28-06, 08:35 AM
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Similar to the vice-grip solution, I clamped one end of an old chain in a bench vice, and then stood the wheel upright, right next to the vice. I then used one hand to hold the wheel, the other hand to undo the cassette lockring.
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Old 01-28-06, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rm -rf
Is this for repairs during your ride? Fiberfix is a kevlar replacement spoke for replacing on the road. You don't need to remove the cassette. I've never used it, but it gets great reviews.
I have used a FiberFix spoke on a ride, several times. It's awesome. Does exactly what it says it will, has gotten me home every time.
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Old 01-28-06, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
Throw a rag on the cassette to protect your hand, grab the cassette and unscrew the lock ring with the other hand. It has always worked for me.
I don't understand how this works--isn't the lockring always tighter than "finger-tight"? Theoretically at least?
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Old 01-28-06, 04:53 PM
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You turn the lock ring tool with a wrench with one hand while you keep the cassette from turning by wrapping a rag around it and holding it with the other hand. I've always been able to remove lock rings that way, and I'm not particularly strong. I'm just saying try it before you buy a tool you may not need.
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Originally Posted by lawkd
I don't understand how this works--isn't the lockring always tighter than "finger-tight"? Theoretically at least?
it should be ~40nm. he means just use the towel to hold the cassette, or twist it around the cassette. you still need a proper cassette lockring tool to tighten/loosen-this is unique to each manufacturer.
 
Old 01-28-06, 06:33 PM
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Found links for modifying a lock-ring tool to use without a chainwhip:
https://www.mark-ju.net/bike_ride/equ...percracker.htm
https://ohmelovelo.dnsalias.org/tools/tools.html

For on-bike, touring use this seems like a good idea to avoid carrying a chainwhip.
Note that on the second linked page, they direct you to "roll the bike backwards" to undo the lockring.
This sounds wrong to me. I would think you'd roll the bike forward, since this would be the equivalent of turning the lockring CCW - lefty-loosey, righty-tighty?
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Just put the chain on the biggest cog and stand on the chain.
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Old 01-30-06, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelW
There used to be a small tool called a Hypercracker, made by Pamyr that undid the locknut, on the bike with no chaintool required. It was a must-have tool, but the company went bust.
Anyone know if the tool is still around ?
Stein makes a tool called the HyperHandle that does just what you say. I imagine it's the same tool as the 'cracker.
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Old 01-30-06, 06:30 PM
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speaking of chainwhips, do they sell chainwhips with 1/8" links...for single speed stuff?
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Out of desperation, I made a shop (garage), use whip by using an old chain bolted to a 3 foot long by 1 foot wide piece of plywood. I cut the chain so it would go from the ground, and around the largest cog of a 700C wheel. This way, there's enough chain for a 26" wheel as well. Place the wheel to the left of the chain if the cassette is on the right side of the wheel, (I marked it on the piece of plywood to eliminate second guessing), and hold the wheel firmly in place with one hand. Then, with both feet planted on the plywood, on either side of the wheel, use the remover tool, et voila. The cassette comes off every time. I do recommend having fully inflated tires, or bare rims. I can post a picture if I didn't explain it well.
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Old 01-31-06, 07:27 PM
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I use a car oil filter tool which cost about AUD$10 from an auto shop; that's about 20 dollars less than the proper tool. This is one of the older styles which has a chain attached to a handle. Works well; i've use it several times now without problems.
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Old 01-31-06, 11:52 PM
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Until someone gave me an old chain whip, I just used an old chain and a bench vise--it worked quite well.
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Old 02-01-06, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bwolmarans
old chain and vice grip - pretty straightforward
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Old 02-01-06, 10:42 AM
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hi guys,
i use a claw hammer.
the narrow inside chain links lock into the claw hammer.
i hold the cassete with the chain around the gears and then unlock the lock ring.
i use a short length of old chain with the claw hammer .
does the same job as a chain whip at zero cost.
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Old 02-01-06, 10:54 AM
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I've bought chain whips for $5. More than worth it for the cost saved in towels
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