Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Should I upgrade to 105?

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Should I upgrade to 105?

Old 06-24-19, 03:21 PM
  #1  
Earthur999
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Should I upgrade to 105?

I just bought a 2014 Trek Crossrip off of craigslist. Really jumped the gun and bought it for the trek name and its geometry as opposed to its components. It came equipped with Shimano Sora. It shifts fine, but I imagine it could be smoother. Should I spend the $$ on a 105 groupset? Or ride the bike for a year, sell it, and buy one that comes with 105?
Earthur999 is offline  
Old 06-24-19, 03:27 PM
  #2  
velojym
Senior Member
 
velojym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Alabama
Posts: 519

Bikes: Konas: Jake the Snake-Fire Mountain-Zing Supreme, Dew Deluxe,Zone Ltd. (frame, needs parts), Surly Long Haul Trucker, Santana Arriva tandem, Montagues: Paratrooper-Fit, Trek 1200, Bianchi Ocelot, Fantom Cross Uno, Bridgestone 200

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 108 Post(s)
Liked 227 Times in 122 Posts
I can't speak to the more recent generations, but my wife and I have bikes with both groups (st-5500 on mine) from around the same generation.
While I do like my 105 a bit better than the Sora, I don't think I'd bother with the expense of upgrading the latter if it's currently in good shape.
velojym is offline  
Old 06-24-19, 10:43 PM
  #3  
Badger6
Obsessed with Eddington
 
Badger6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Brussels (BE) 🇧🇪
Posts: 1,330

Bikes: '16 Spesh Diverge, '14 Spesh Fatboy, '18 Spesh Epic, '18 Spesh SL6, '21 Spesh SL7, '21 Spesh Diverge...and maybe n+1?

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 532 Post(s)
Liked 621 Times in 368 Posts
Before you upgrade from Sora, make sure that your rear hub can accommodate the extra gearing. 2014 Sora was 9-speed...by that year 105 was already 11-speed, your hub may ONLY accommodate 10-speed.

As for upgrade...105 will definitely shift better, along with offering more steps (10 or 11 speed) for the same range, but if you're going to spend the money to upgrade, go up to Ultegra. 10-speed and 11-speed is easily sourced via eBay, be patient, and understand that you may have to buy it piece by piece. It will shift much better than what you're currently shifting. I will also say this, there are plenty of opinions about what one should spend money on when doing upgrades...the only opinion that matters in the end is yours, just ensure you're fully informed so you don't end up with regrets.
Badger6 is offline  
Old 06-25-19, 01:27 AM
  #4  
MyTi
6-4 Titanium
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 330
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 36 Times in 31 Posts
tiara, 105, ultegra, dura ace, all the same to me as far as shift quality. I haven't tried sora but I bet it's the same. It's really more about weight savings, and possibly ergonomics than it is about actual shifting differences. My 2005 ultegra shifters shifted just as good as a 2018 model I recently test rode with r8000 shifters. It's why I haven't bothered to upgrade. Why upgrade for no reason is my thing. The cranks that came on my bike are still good, why replace it?
MyTi is offline  
Old 06-25-19, 02:45 AM
  #5  
Racing Dan
Senior Member
 
Racing Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,231
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1335 Post(s)
Liked 318 Times in 216 Posts
Id leave it alone, unless it worn. Usually if there is any notable issues, its from worn parts or too much friction in the cables. Also ppl like to complain about too big gear jumps with 9 or 10 speed and that is true to the extent you compare the same overall gear range to 11 speed, but often you can dispense with the top and possibly bottom gear and have a perfectly fine middle range in 9 speed. For instance in 9 speed there is 12-25 and 12-27 shimano cassettes that has pretty much the same gear jumps as an standard 11-28, bar the 11 and 28t.
Racing Dan is offline  
Old 06-25-19, 06:18 AM
  #6  
Phil_gretz
Zip tie Karen
 
Phil_gretz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Fair Oaks Ranch, TX
Posts: 7,004

Bikes: '13 Motobecane Fantom29 HT, '16 Motobecane Turino Pro Disc, '18 Velobuild VB-R-022, '21 Tsunami SNM-100

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1465 Post(s)
Liked 1,542 Times in 806 Posts
I'm in the "don't 'upgrade'" camp as well. I'll bet that the shifting is fine.

Also, welcome to Earth.
Phil_gretz is offline  
Old 06-25-19, 07:34 AM
  #7  
Earthur999
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks

Thanks everyone for the replies. I believe with a good cleaning and some adjustments that it will be perfectly adequate for what I need. I am hoping to get some help from a friend that will help me properly adjust the derailleur, it has a tendency to jump around in some of the gears. And the front derailleur needs to be “trimmed” in some gear combinations, I assume this is normal? Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Earthur999 is offline  
Old 06-25-19, 07:50 AM
  #8  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 8,922
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Liked 1,882 Times in 998 Posts
Originally Posted by Earthur999
Thanks everyone for the replies. I believe with a good cleaning and some adjustments that it will be perfectly adequate for what I need. I am hoping to get some help from a friend that will help me properly adjust the derailleur, it has a tendency to jump around in some of the gears. And the front derailleur needs to be “trimmed” in some gear combinations, I assume this is normal? Please correct me if I’m wrong.
trimming the front derailleur is normal.

Check the rear derailleur hanger alignment before trying to adjust anything. If the hanger is bent, it's almost impossible to get the derailleur to shift properly.
noodle soup is offline  
Old 06-25-19, 08:20 AM
  #9  
GrainBrain
Senior Member
 
GrainBrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Central Io-way
Posts: 2,672

Bikes: LeMond Zurich, Giant Talon 29er

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1221 Post(s)
Liked 627 Times in 471 Posts
Originally Posted by Racing Dan
Id leave it alone, unless it worn. Usually if there is any notable issues, its from worn parts or too much friction in the cables. Also ppl like to complain about too big gear jumps with 9 or 10 speed and that is true to the extent you compare the same overall gear range to 11 speed, but often you can dispense with the top and possibly bottom gear and have a perfectly fine middle range in 9 speed. For instance in 9 speed there is 12-25 and 12-27 shimano cassettes that has pretty much the same gear jumps as an standard 11-28, bar the 11 and 28t.
This right here for gearing. Unless you feel like you need a greater range there's no good reason to upgrade. FWIW my 8 speed has a 13-23 cassette, good enough for my area.
GrainBrain is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ka12na
Bicycle Mechanics
14
08-24-14 04:42 PM
MartinPettit
Bicycle Mechanics
13
08-17-12 01:44 PM
Bradleykd
Road Cycling
7
07-24-12 01:00 PM
R. Ledniczky
Road Cycling
18
05-21-10 02:34 PM
bsear
Road Cycling
37
05-04-10 03:05 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.