Surly LHT forward-back rocking on descents
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Yes! The chain jumps so I’m planning a visit anyway.
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Re. Having someone show you how.
I deal with a small shop owned by the mechanic of more than thirty years. When I got into disc brakes I said I wanted him to show me how to replace/adjust pads. I bought the pads, he did the rear and I did the front.
Same some year's ago with spoke truing. I could do it somewhat but paid him $20 to give me his version of a tutorial when business was slow. I do my own work but he's the guy I go to when I get stumped mechanically.
I deal with a small shop owned by the mechanic of more than thirty years. When I got into disc brakes I said I wanted him to show me how to replace/adjust pads. I bought the pads, he did the rear and I did the front.
Same some year's ago with spoke truing. I could do it somewhat but paid him $20 to give me his version of a tutorial when business was slow. I do my own work but he's the guy I go to when I get stumped mechanically.
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Re. Having someone show you how.
I deal with a small shop owned by the mechanic of more than thirty years. When I got into disc brakes I said I wanted him to show me how to replace/adjust pads. I bought the pads, he did the rear and I did the front.
Same some year's ago with spoke truing. I could do it somewhat but paid him $20 to give me his version of a tutorial when business was slow. I do my own work but he's the guy I go to when I get stumped mechanically.
I deal with a small shop owned by the mechanic of more than thirty years. When I got into disc brakes I said I wanted him to show me how to replace/adjust pads. I bought the pads, he did the rear and I did the front.
Same some year's ago with spoke truing. I could do it somewhat but paid him $20 to give me his version of a tutorial when business was slow. I do my own work but he's the guy I go to when I get stumped mechanically.
really worth having a good relationship with a bike store and employees.
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Re. Having someone show you how.
I deal with a small shop owned by the mechanic of more than thirty years. When I got into disc brakes I said I wanted him to show me how to replace/adjust pads. I bought the pads, he did the rear and I did the front.
Same some year's ago with spoke truing. I could do it somewhat but paid him $20 to give me his version of a tutorial when business was slow. I do my own work but he's the guy I go to when I get stumped mechanically.
I deal with a small shop owned by the mechanic of more than thirty years. When I got into disc brakes I said I wanted him to show me how to replace/adjust pads. I bought the pads, he did the rear and I did the front.
Same some year's ago with spoke truing. I could do it somewhat but paid him $20 to give me his version of a tutorial when business was slow. I do my own work but he's the guy I go to when I get stumped mechanically.
I've done this sort of thing often with my local bike shops going back decades. Knowing that I was into touring and wanting to be competent for any mechanicals on a trip, they've always been open to checking my work and answering questions.
really worth having a good relationship with a bike store and employees.
really worth having a good relationship with a bike store and employees.
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I would add though that with a good bike store with good employees etc, they know I'll buy "stuff" from them for years, lights, locks, bikes for my kids, and have them do mechanic work that is beyond my ability or what needs very specialized tools-- so just want to emphasize trying to support local bike stores.
around here, bike stores are bonkers busy, and the continuing covid situation means limited entry of customers.
around here, bike stores are bonkers busy, and the continuing covid situation means limited entry of customers.
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Quick and partial update: took the LHT to the original purchase bike shop to check headset and make an adjustment (separate issue - front derailleur, will research threads on that one). Apparently the stem I installed had the right amount of compression but there was one stem bolt not quite tight enough. Overall, the mechanic did not see any reason why there would have been fore-aft rocking unless it was brakes.
I plan to retrace that ride soon and will be paying attention to my braking in case I flunked the memory test and was actually applying some brakes.
I'll post a review after the ride - may be this weekend or next.
I plan to retrace that ride soon and will be paying attention to my braking in case I flunked the memory test and was actually applying some brakes.
I'll post a review after the ride - may be this weekend or next.
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Thank you and Verdict
For the full story: I did take the bike back to the original shop and they checked the (new stem and) headset - all was fine and the right torque. I had a derailleur adjustment (separate issue now - three chain rings on the front seem to be a wee bit too wide for the range of movement from the stock derailleur) too. I have spent a number of weeks seeking out a non-painful saddle to allow a repeat of the same 40 mile ride. In the mean time, I tested a couple of saddles on another couple of shorter hills and felt the same fore-aft sensation, but in relationship to obvious bumps in the asphalt. I also tested the brakes with light pressure going down hills. Once I found the saddle for me (a brooks b17 imperial and now butchered just a tad), I had a repeat ride. NO ROCKING. so.... I'm chalking it up to oversensitivity to new bike performance and also maybe regular bumps in the asphalt on that particular stretch of road.
Thank you all! Gains for me: headset knowledge, park tools videos, and a refined focus on road feel vs mech issues.
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Here is the final verdict: it was a mystery experience and has not been repeated.
For the full story: I did take the bike back to the original shop and they checked the (new stem and) headset - all was fine and the right torque. I had a derailleur adjustment (separate issue now - three chain rings on the front seem to be a wee bit too wide for the range of movement from the stock derailleur) too. I have spent a number of weeks seeking out a non-painful saddle to allow a repeat of the same 40 mile ride. In the mean time, I tested a couple of saddles on another couple of shorter hills and felt the same fore-aft sensation, but in relationship to obvious bumps in the asphalt. I also tested the brakes with light pressure going down hills. Once I found the saddle for me (a brooks b17 imperial and now butchered just a tad), I had a repeat ride. NO ROCKING. so.... I'm chalking it up to oversensitivity to new bike performance and also maybe regular bumps in the asphalt on that particular stretch of road.
Thank you all! Gains for me: headset knowledge, park tools videos, and a refined focus on road feel vs mech issues.
For the full story: I did take the bike back to the original shop and they checked the (new stem and) headset - all was fine and the right torque. I had a derailleur adjustment (separate issue now - three chain rings on the front seem to be a wee bit too wide for the range of movement from the stock derailleur) too. I have spent a number of weeks seeking out a non-painful saddle to allow a repeat of the same 40 mile ride. In the mean time, I tested a couple of saddles on another couple of shorter hills and felt the same fore-aft sensation, but in relationship to obvious bumps in the asphalt. I also tested the brakes with light pressure going down hills. Once I found the saddle for me (a brooks b17 imperial and now butchered just a tad), I had a repeat ride. NO ROCKING. so.... I'm chalking it up to oversensitivity to new bike performance and also maybe regular bumps in the asphalt on that particular stretch of road.
Thank you all! Gains for me: headset knowledge, park tools videos, and a refined focus on road feel vs mech issues.
Thanks for the update.
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hey, thats life, learning new stuff one bit at a time, and as with more riding experience, sometimes it helps to actively think about a "this" feel or "that" feel about different aspects of riding-- helps you become more attuned to things that you never paid attention to before.
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