What makes a touring bike frame a touring bike frame?
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I'm not at the point where that is needed... most of the time. There are quite a few discussions about health benefits of cycling, and I'm for as much as possible.
The exception is the occasional heavy cargo load. So far infrequent enough that it is fine. And, if I needed to do it more often, perhaps it would get me into better shape.
Yet, I'm not beyond improving my towing rig.
The exception is the occasional heavy cargo load. So far infrequent enough that it is fine. And, if I needed to do it more often, perhaps it would get me into better shape.
Yet, I'm not beyond improving my towing rig.
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LOL! It's not about "need". That's the 1st reaction every bike rider has to the suggestion of riding an ebike, "I'm not that old", "I'm not there yet", "I'm not at the point where that is needed... "It doesn't have to have anything to do with need. You can expend as much or more energy than you do now with the only side effect being to have gone further, faster, with more weight. Or not use the motor at all and talk smack at the top of the hill.
Further... I did hit 160 mile one-day ride a week ago. I hit 200 miles last April. Hopefully the E-Battery wouldn't have died halfway through the ride.
More Weight? Now that could be dangerous.
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And, while they may get their suspension from the tires, that is all undamped suspension. It's a bit like trying to ride a basket ball.
As for wheels, it probably won't matter. There is way too much made out of how one wheel size is vastly superior to another when the differences is only marginal. There are other downsides and upsides to consider. For example, a "29er" uses a larger, heavier wheel which makes it harder to climb since the gearing is higher and the wheel is heavier. The 27.5er (650b) is still relatively new which makes sourcing replacement tires and/or wheels a bit more difficult. To be fair, 26" tires are becoming rarer so replacement can be difficult to find as well.
On the plus side for 26" mountain bikes, you can pick up fantastic bikes for a song. I have 2 titanium ones that I paid a fraction of the price of a new titanium bike and I expect to ride them for decades. The Moots YBB I have has a clever "soft tail" that takes a bit of the edge off of hits without inch worming like a longer travel bike can. I paid about $900 for the frame about 10 years ago when new frames were going for north of $2000. I have a Dean hardtail which makes for a great off-road tourer as well without the comfort edge and I paid $600 for a $3000 frame. Both are going to outlast me.
Yep... I don't expect a stem failure. But, just an example of using vintage bikes and "franken-bikes". The old Colnago is likely worse for finding replacement parts along the road. But, there is always the risk of braking something on a bike that just isn't carried anymore, anywhere.
How long until we arrive at a point where the only parts for 80's and 90's style bikes will come from the internet or perhaps junk stores? And, of course parts like the stem that connect a 2000's style fork to a 2010's style handlebar just don't really exist.
How long until we arrive at a point where the only parts for 80's and 90's style bikes will come from the internet or perhaps junk stores? And, of course parts like the stem that connect a 2000's style fork to a 2010's style handlebar just don't really exist.
As for connecting a 2000 fork to a 2010 (or 2018) style handlebar, that's easy. There are lots of adapters you can use to make everything fit. The Interwebs makes it easy to track down those parts.
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I believe it was you that said: "Know your audience" tiger. Just trying to make it un-der-stand-a-ble. I don't need someone to be an English prof. once again, just understandable. You know, enough effort that the point can come through. No problem man, I understand completely. You just do your best.
You have a few points on which we could agree but your delivery and attitude aren't helping.
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Take your own advice, dog. If you are going act like an English professor and call others on grammar and spelling, you'd better damned well be perfect yourself. Frankly, your post, this post and most of your other posts are barely un-der-stand-a-ble.
You have a few points on which we could agree but your delivery and attitude aren't helping.
You have a few points on which we could agree but your delivery and attitude aren't helping.
"Someone who is out on the edges of stuff carrying should be careful about throwing rocks. Glass houses and all that."
When offered this level of.... poop <trying to be nice for the administraters>, I don't bother wasting the time to wade through the rest of the morass. I prefer epistemological evidence over opinion. But, thanks for reading my other posts, can't say I would ever consider doing the same for you. Have a good day and lay off the sauce mate.
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Sorry. big guy. I didn't mean to dent the old feelings. You are the only one I have ever mentioned anything to about not being able to understand them. Mostly because, well... I couldn't understand your ramblings. So, now you have proven that you Can use spell and grammar checkers, all you have to do is repeat it on every post. Maybe it was due to alcohol use, IDK, or care. It doesn't have to be perfect, just good enough to mostly understood. When you use sentences like this:
"Someone who is out on the edges of stuff carrying should be careful about throwing rocks. Glass houses and all that."
When offered this level of.... poop <trying to be nice for the administraters>, I don't bother wasting the time to wade through the rest of the morass. I prefer epistemological evidence over opinion. But, thanks for reading my other posts, can't say I would ever consider doing the same for you. Have a good day and lay off the sauce mate.
"Someone who is out on the edges of stuff carrying should be careful about throwing rocks. Glass houses and all that."
When offered this level of.... poop <trying to be nice for the administraters>, I don't bother wasting the time to wade through the rest of the morass. I prefer epistemological evidence over opinion. But, thanks for reading my other posts, can't say I would ever consider doing the same for you. Have a good day and lay off the sauce mate.
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Forum rules prevent me from saying what I really want to say but you have gone too far! Nothing in any of my posts indicate that I have a substance abuse problem of any kind. To level that kind of accusation is going way over the line. Your post is a clear effort to just be insulting. That's against Forum rules as well.
"Methinks thou doth protest too much." - W.S.
It is one of the perversely sad truths of society that the voice which shouts the loudest is the most influential in that society. I offer an opinion, my opinion. If you don't like my "delivery", and or, "attitude" as you have stated:
"You have a few points on which we could agree but your delivery and attitude aren't helping."
Then don't subject yourself to my opinion.
p.s. I left a couple spelling errors and several punctuation... abnormalities.
I think full suspension tour bikes are the evolutionary process of tour bikes.
I had to come back and tell you not to worry, that in the future I will make no comments directly to you, so you can rest easy mate.
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Internet picture is that of of a young Woman in Barcelona , Irish Author Dervla Murphy, in her younger years and travels..
https://www.travelbooks.co.uk/dervla-murphy/
I see women today carrying a small back pack, as a purse.
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https://www.travelbooks.co.uk/dervla-murphy/
I see women today carrying a small back pack, as a purse.
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Your reading comprehension isn't what you think it is. Suggesting that someone is drunk when that is clearly not in evidence is meant purely as an insult. What I said initially was clearly written and easy to understand. You are just grasping at straws to make your point. Some...perhaps many...would say you are just a troll.
Nearly everything you've written has been insulting and not at all clearly written. Just as when you've calling someone out on what and how they carry things on bicycles, your attempts at calling out my grammar fall far short of the mark since your grammar and spelling are far poorer than mine.
Perhaps the real problem here is that you don't understand the "glass houses" metaphor.
Nearly everything you've written has been insulting and not at all clearly written. Just as when you've calling someone out on what and how they carry things on bicycles, your attempts at calling out my grammar fall far short of the mark since your grammar and spelling are far poorer than mine.
Perhaps the real problem here is that you don't understand the "glass houses" metaphor.
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One should always speak at the level of their intended "audience". If I lost you there too... watch a 1st-grade teacher speaking to children. Stay safe.
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