Everyday Carry
10-31-18, 03:04 PM
#26
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,610
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 399 Post(s)
Liked 274 Times
in
136 Posts
However, please forgive me for pointing that for the problem you described you didn't need any multi-tool. A 5mm hex key takes up close no room, and since you brought up weight - weighs practically nothing...and costs about 50¢ at a neighborhood hardware store. Plus they come in long lengths too (if it will fit in your bag) for anyone worried about getting enough leverage...
Yes, carry and use whatever makes you happy - I just posted what has been working for me...
10-31-18, 03:48 PM
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,948
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1332 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times
in
194 Posts
When your bike also has 3mm, 4mm, 6mm, and 8mm bolts, there are a lot of problems a 5mm won't solve. My mutlitool also has flat/philips screwdrivers and spoke wrench, all of which I've used on the road at one point or another.
10-31-18, 04:00 PM
#30
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,610
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 399 Post(s)
Liked 274 Times
in
136 Posts
Yes, carry and use whatever makes you happy - I just posted what has been working for me...
11-01-18, 04:31 PM
#31
Clark W. Griswold
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,658
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4412 Post(s)
Liked 4,055 Times
in
2,704 Posts
Swap all of your bolts to 5mm, use trip spoke wheels and buy ScRAM derailleurs (and then replace the bolts with 5mm). Problem solved if it were possible to swap all bolts with 5mm compatible stuff and trispokes and ScRAM didn't generally kind of stink to a point.
11-01-18, 05:28 PM
#32
aire díthrub
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: chatham-savannah
Posts: 553
Bikes: Raleigh Competition, Pashley Roadster Sovereign, Mercian Vincitore Speciale
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 259 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 55 Times
in
35 Posts
this is a good point, and it’s exactly the argument I make when people tell me they ‘need’ an overpriced multi tool. You can literally replace the bolts. I did that on my fender mounting bolts. I get that it may not be possible in every case, but you can certainly replace some, with a quick trip to a hardware store. I promise you’ll spend less money on a few replacement bolts than a multi tool. I mean, to each their own, but if you really want to carry as little as possible AND make any roadside repairs or adjustments as quick and easy as possible, putting some forethought into this and only carrying a few quality tools is a good way to go. I have no problem with needing a few more sizes than just 4,5,6mm, but if you have phillips or flathead fasteners on your bike, just replace them. You’ll save yourself time on the side of the road, you’ll save yourself frustration and you’ll save yourself money. It’s your bike, you should WANT to set it up to be as simple and easy to adjust/repair as possible. Forethought and a few quality purpose tools are better than a multi tool, any day of the week.
11-01-18, 05:38 PM
#33
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,948
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1332 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times
in
194 Posts
Taking joke posts seriously ftw. The mental backflips you guys have to do to argue against carrying a multitool must be exhausting.
11-01-18, 05:43 PM
#34
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,948
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1332 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times
in
194 Posts
If you think bikes shouldn't have philips screws, I guess you've never seen a derailleur.
11-01-18, 05:49 PM
#35
Gold Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Humboldt County, CA
Posts: 469
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Well I did have a camelbak that I kept my 15 mm wrench, tire levers and Presta to Schrader adapter but I see lm to uave misplaced ky Camelbak
11-02-18, 01:22 AM
#36
aire díthrub
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: chatham-savannah
Posts: 553
Bikes: Raleigh Competition, Pashley Roadster Sovereign, Mercian Vincitore Speciale
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 259 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 55 Times
in
35 Posts
I’m not technically arguing against anything, as I said, to each their own. I was simply adding my opinion. Makes no difference to me what an internet stranger carries. As far as a derailleur, are you serious? Maybe it’s the mechanic in me coming out but, you should never be adjusting your high and low settings on the side of the road. That’s the type of maintenance that should be done at home before setting off, because all those screws do is set how far inboard and outboard the derailleur can swing. Failure to do that before riding is just laziness, not a good case for a multi tool. Hell, a keychain Swiss Army knife could handle that. Nearly anything could work to adjust those two screws. Besides that, once they are set the first time, they should never need adjusting again anyway. Also, we’re in the ss/fixed gear section aren’t we? So aren’t we under the assumption that the OP doesn’t have a derailleur on their bike? Or am I wrong?
11-02-18, 06:57 AM
#37
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,264
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 15 Times
in
10 Posts
4,5,6 Y hex wrench meets all my needs is light and ergonomic to use, unlike those multi-tools.
I don't know what half the things on that Fabric 16 do. It's like 13 more things than I need.
But replacing all your bolts just so you can carry one hex key seems borderline insane as well.
It takes all kinds.
To each his/her/their own.
I don't know what half the things on that Fabric 16 do. It's like 13 more things than I need.
But replacing all your bolts just so you can carry one hex key seems borderline insane as well.
It takes all kinds.
To each his/her/their own.
11-02-18, 07:15 AM
#39
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,948
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1332 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times
in
194 Posts
Still looking forward to hot takes about how the chain breaker and spoke wrench on my multitool are superfluous.
11-02-18, 07:20 AM
#41
Non omnino gravis
While it may change in the future-- as I've used more than my fair share of tool solutions, from multi-tools to a bundle of hex-keys rubberbanded together, and this is my current favorite, because it can contain exactly what tools I need. Every other multi-tool has had 2-3 things on there I just don't need.
__________________
11-02-18, 07:27 AM
#42
aire díthrub
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: chatham-savannah
Posts: 553
Bikes: Raleigh Competition, Pashley Roadster Sovereign, Mercian Vincitore Speciale
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 259 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 55 Times
in
35 Posts
11-02-18, 07:40 AM
#43
aire díthrub
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: chatham-savannah
Posts: 553
Bikes: Raleigh Competition, Pashley Roadster Sovereign, Mercian Vincitore Speciale
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 259 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 55 Times
in
35 Posts
they aren’t. And if you ride a 1/8 riveted chain, it’s pretty essential to have a chain breaker. I use a master link though, and always carry a spare one. My pedros micro leavers technically count as a multitool I suppose? I would only carry a spoke wrench if I were going on a tour, but that’s just me. Anyway, you clearly wanted someone to disagree with you, because only you brought it up. You enjoy having ruffled feathers over people disagreeing with you?
11-02-18, 08:33 AM
#44
Clark W. Griswold
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,658
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4412 Post(s)
Liked 4,055 Times
in
2,704 Posts
this is a good point, and it’s exactly the argument I make when people tell me they ‘need’ an overpriced multi tool. You can literally replace the bolts. I did that on my fender mounting bolts. I get that it may not be possible in every case, but you can certainly replace some, with a quick trip to a hardware store. I promise you’ll spend less money on a few replacement bolts than a multi tool. I mean, to each their own, but if you really want to carry as little as possible AND make any roadside repairs or adjustments as quick and easy as possible, putting some forethought into this and only carrying a few quality tools is a good way to go. I have no problem with needing a few more sizes than just 4,5,6mm, but if you have phillips or flathead fasteners on your bike, just replace them. You’ll save yourself time on the side of the road, you’ll save yourself frustration and you’ll save yourself money. It’s your bike, you should WANT to set it up to be as simple and easy to adjust/repair as possible. Forethought and a few quality purpose tools are better than a multi tool, any day of the week.
Individual tools are awesome and I do love them and certainly can be easier for some tasks but I don't want to have to swap bolts and if I did I would probably go T25 as a lot of higher end components are going that way and lessing the chance of stripping something in the field is a good thing. Not that I tend to strip bolts but when you are frustrated and maybe weather isn't great or you are in a rush the chance is greater.
11-02-18, 12:52 PM
#45
Not actually Tmonk
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 14,192
Bikes: road, track, mtb
Mentioned: 142 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2677 Post(s)
Liked 3,205 Times
in
1,687 Posts
How often do you need a tool on the road anyway? I ride a **** ton more than the avg SS/FG subforum user and I hardly ever do anything besides repair flats. Can't even remember the last time, really.
__________________
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
11-02-18, 01:59 PM
#47
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 9,948
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1332 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times
in
194 Posts
I don't get flats on 99% of my rides, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop carrying the means to fix one. Off the top of my head, in recent memory I've used a multitool while out to --
-make fit adjustments
-tighten bolts that come loose
-quickly true a wheel after busting a spoke
-fix a broken chain
-swap parts when commuting to/from track
-dig glass and debris out of tires
-lend to other people who needed it for mechanicals
-realign cockpit after crashing
-make fit adjustments
-tighten bolts that come loose
-quickly true a wheel after busting a spoke
-fix a broken chain
-swap parts when commuting to/from track
-dig glass and debris out of tires
-lend to other people who needed it for mechanicals
-realign cockpit after crashing
11-02-18, 05:48 PM
#48
Gold Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Humboldt County, CA
Posts: 469
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Can never have too much water(unless the weight is too much for your back qnd shoulders) (even then it's still good to have)
11-02-18, 08:38 PM
#50
Non omnino gravis
If I wasn't already familiar with the typical posts on here, I might be surprised by the number of people who purportedly ride bikes, but have never needed to adjust a handlebar, raise or lower a seatpost, or even tighten a cleat on a shoe-- ever, even once, while riding.
On the other hand, I've done all of those things in the past 30 days.
On the other hand, I've done all of those things in the past 30 days.
__________________