Biggest tires for 26"x17mm rims?
08-20-18, 11:08 AM
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Biggest tires for 26"x17mm rims?
The tires on my trusty commuter MTB are starting to show some terminal wear from the daily grind. Currently running (old) Ritchey SpeedMax in 26x1.95.
Was looking at a couple of 26x2.0 'urban tires' since i don't need much tread, but still want some volume for curb-hopping.
Came across the Kenda Kiniption in 26x2.3 and the Maxxis Hookworm in 26x2.5 I like the look of a big, fat tire, since the bike is an old Cannondale F1000 with big, fat tubes.
Don't know if they will work on my rims, which are Mavic 230's that i belive are 17mm (inside width)
Anyone used a tire this big on a rim this narrow?
Was looking at a couple of 26x2.0 'urban tires' since i don't need much tread, but still want some volume for curb-hopping.
Came across the Kenda Kiniption in 26x2.3 and the Maxxis Hookworm in 26x2.5 I like the look of a big, fat tire, since the bike is an old Cannondale F1000 with big, fat tubes.
Don't know if they will work on my rims, which are Mavic 230's that i belive are 17mm (inside width)
Anyone used a tire this big on a rim this narrow?
08-20-18, 01:31 PM
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See: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#width
Sheldon was a little conservative on his max recommendations.
But Velocity tends to agree with him: Velocity Wheels - Hand Made in USA
Your current tires are far wider than recommended for a 17mm inside width, but they have worked for you. You are already playing outside the recommended range.
Sheldon was a little conservative on his max recommendations.
But Velocity tends to agree with him: Velocity Wheels - Hand Made in USA
Your current tires are far wider than recommended for a 17mm inside width, but they have worked for you. You are already playing outside the recommended range.
08-21-18, 05:11 AM
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It was a custom built wheelset, most of the 26" offerings still on the market would be a step down. Guess i'll just have to stick with narrower tires, then.
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I would not think twice about using the 2.3. People used to do that all the time on mtbs back when 17mm (ID) was typical and and 19mm was considered wide.
Even the 2.5 will be fine. Back in the early 2000’s tires like the 2.5 Timberwolf were popular and people ran them on xc rims often no wider than yours. I did.
Granted these will perform better on wider rims (especially at lower pressures) but they will work fine.
Even the 2.5 will be fine. Back in the early 2000’s tires like the 2.5 Timberwolf were popular and people ran them on xc rims often no wider than yours. I did.
Granted these will perform better on wider rims (especially at lower pressures) but they will work fine.
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Recommendations change with time. Nowadays, 18mm inside rim width is used with 23mm wide tires........ ( Velocity A23 rims Velocity Wheels - Hand Made in USA )
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Recommendations change with time. Nowadays, 18mm inside rim width is used with 23mm wide tires........ ( Velocity A23 rims Velocity Wheels - Hand Made in USA )
The OP is asking if a) people have tried it and b) if it works and the answer is a) yes, countless people have done it, and b) yes, it definitely works.
Recomendarioms change, but the reality does not. The fact is, it works fine.
if the op want to run 2.3s, then he will be a heck of a lot happier with 2.3s on 17mm rims than 1” tires on 17mm rims. Velocities chart is not going to change that.
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08-22-18, 08:39 AM
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Tire clearance isn't much of an issue on this bike.
Currently running 1.95" CX knobbies with ~.5" clearance on the rear and .75" on the forks.
It has canti brakes, so the current straddle cable routing is the limiting factor, not the frame tubes.
Currently running 1.95" CX knobbies with ~.5" clearance on the rear and .75" on the forks.
It has canti brakes, so the current straddle cable routing is the limiting factor, not the frame tubes.
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Recommendations change with time. Nowadays, 18mm inside rim width is used with 23mm wide tires........ ( Velocity A23 rims Velocity Wheels - Hand Made in USA )
Were the OP asking for advice on new rims to go with 2.3-2.5” tires, then yes, they will perform better on a wider rim, but unless you are suggesting that he buy a new wheelset, he has the rims that he has.
The OP is asking if a) people have tried it and b) if it works and the answer is a) yes, countless people have done it, and b) yes, it definitely works.
Recomendarioms change, but the reality does not. The fact is, it works fine.
if the op want to run 2.3s, then he will be a heck of a lot happier with 2.3s on 17mm rims than 1” tires on 17mm rims. Velocities chart is not going to change that.
I forget how road-biased it is here. The bike i'm talking about is a mid-90s XC bike (that's Cross-Country MTB racer) 1.95" was the 'standard' tire size, and Mavic 230's were pretty much everywhere if you were looking for lightweight XC rims. The bike has been re-purposed as a commuter these days since, as a high-performance MTB, it has the ability to deal with the kinds of obstacles I encounter on my commute at speed, much like when it was a trail bike.
I have neither the want or need to replace the wheelset, but wanted to retain a high-volume tire; I have no concerns about a 2.0"-2.1" tire, since it's been on that size for the last 20 years, but the 2.3"-2.5s" would look really good on that bike, i just don't have experience with a tire that big.
PS: I don't run 23's on any of my bikes. Even the 'fast' road bike has 28's.
08-22-18, 10:53 AM
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Is this a 'you guys do it first ,and tell me if it's OK', post after all?
Decades ago a Santa Cruz Frame builder dumpster dives a bunch of 40 hole MA 40 700c rims.
from behind a nearby big company HQ.
Cut out an exact amount , rolled it down to 559 (26'') and the narrow XC race MTB rim was born.
a low pressure fat tire on a skinny rim , it is said, will feel funny on a firm surface ,
but not on a loose one....
Decades ago a Santa Cruz Frame builder dumpster dives a bunch of 40 hole MA 40 700c rims.
from behind a nearby big company HQ.
Cut out an exact amount , rolled it down to 559 (26'') and the narrow XC race MTB rim was born.
a low pressure fat tire on a skinny rim , it is said, will feel funny on a firm surface ,
but not on a loose one....
08-22-18, 04:29 PM
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