Addiction XXXVII
07-29-14, 09:58 AM
#5576
So it is
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Mrs. LAJ doesn't put all of her energies into her toxic garden.
07-29-14, 09:59 AM
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07-29-14, 10:03 AM
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Ung. Power good!
07-29-14, 10:04 AM
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THIS is the homemade cheesecake Mrs BD used to reel me in 9 years ago: a chocolate mocha with crushed oreo crust.
As dastardly ruthless a tactic as has ever been devised.
Should be outlawed in the same vein as chemical warfare. Where's the Geneva convention when you need it?
As dastardly ruthless a tactic as has ever been devised.
Should be outlawed in the same vein as chemical warfare. Where's the Geneva convention when you need it?
07-29-14, 10:06 AM
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07-29-14, 10:06 AM
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07-29-14, 10:08 AM
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07-29-14, 10:14 AM
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Version 7.0
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After the ride, the "power data" in the head unit can be downloaded into a computer equipped with special software to manipulate the data. Training Peaks, Golden Cheetah (also a strip club in Atlanta) or Cycling Analytics are software programs that generate graphs and make calculations based upon the recorded data.
A useful feature of that software group is the performance manager. It calculates a daily stress score based upon the ride and time spent in different power zones giving a higher score to power zones above lactate threshold. The score is further manipulated into a 42 day moving average and a 7 day moving average to calculate your short term and long term stress. The difference between the two moving averages is the training stress balance. So the more short term stress one incurs compared to the longer term stress the more fatigue.
Without power, there is no training stress score and the performance manager assumes it to be zero. So if I go on an easy ride, my score will be low and it get counted into my long and short term training stress.
This is useful when planning training blocks where one builds for 2 to 3 weeks and then rests for a week.
Event data from races or charity rides or centuries are very interesting to analyze post mortem and contribute heavily to athlete training load.
I suggested to @Heathpack, that she would benefit from a PM.
She is highly motivated to succeed in her cycling with clear goals, is one very smart cookie, is highly technical in her work and IMO, would benefit from the instantaneous measurement of power and energy during her rides for pacing and post mortem analysis and keeping track of training load. But PMs and electronics are not for everyone. YMMV.
07-29-14, 10:14 AM
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Just Plain Slow
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Until I heard this, I was only mildly intimidated by this climbing animal who understand how to anesthetize an elephant, but now that I know she's packing heat, too........!
07-29-14, 10:19 AM
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Wrong thread... https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...ot-thread.html
The station had live coverage Sunday night when storms came through (the head guy came in to help her) and she kept talking about how there was "tons" of lightning outside.
07-29-14, 10:25 AM
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Has a magic bike
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Don't do it! We will get in trouble with Wooshie
07-29-14, 10:27 AM
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We're always in trouble with WHOOOSSHHH.
07-29-14, 10:31 AM
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The simple answer is that it is more fun and the technical answer is to keep track of training load. The power meter just measures torque via a strain gage. Torque is converted to instantaneous power by calculation. The information is transmitted to a head unit that records at a time interval, the torque, rpm and power data.
After the ride, the "power data" in the head unit can be downloaded into a computer equipped with special software to manipulate the data. Training Peaks, Golden Cheetah (also a strip club in Atlanta) or Cycling Analytics are software programs that generate graphs and make calculations based upon the recorded data.
A useful feature of that software group is the performance manager. It calculates a daily stress score based upon the ride and time spent in different power zones giving a higher score to power zones above lactate threshold. The score is further manipulated into a 42 day moving average and a 7 day moving average to calculate your short term and long term stress. The difference between the two moving averages is the training stress balance. So the more short term stress one incurs compared to the longer term stress the more fatigue.
Without power, there is no training stress score and the performance manager assumes it to be zero. So if I go on an easy ride, my score will be low and it get counted into my long and short term training stress.
This is useful when planning training blocks where one builds for 2 to 3 weeks and then rests for a week.
Event data from races or charity rides or centuries are very interesting to analyze post mortem and contribute heavily to athlete training load.
I suggested to @Heathpack, that she would benefit from a PM.
She is highly motivated to succeed in her cycling with clear goals, is one very smart cookie, is highly technical in her work and IMO, would benefit from the instantaneous measurement of power and energy during her rides for pacing and post mortem analysis and keeping track of training load. But PMs and electronics are not for everyone. YMMV.
After the ride, the "power data" in the head unit can be downloaded into a computer equipped with special software to manipulate the data. Training Peaks, Golden Cheetah (also a strip club in Atlanta) or Cycling Analytics are software programs that generate graphs and make calculations based upon the recorded data.
A useful feature of that software group is the performance manager. It calculates a daily stress score based upon the ride and time spent in different power zones giving a higher score to power zones above lactate threshold. The score is further manipulated into a 42 day moving average and a 7 day moving average to calculate your short term and long term stress. The difference between the two moving averages is the training stress balance. So the more short term stress one incurs compared to the longer term stress the more fatigue.
Without power, there is no training stress score and the performance manager assumes it to be zero. So if I go on an easy ride, my score will be low and it get counted into my long and short term training stress.
This is useful when planning training blocks where one builds for 2 to 3 weeks and then rests for a week.
Event data from races or charity rides or centuries are very interesting to analyze post mortem and contribute heavily to athlete training load.
I suggested to @Heathpack, that she would benefit from a PM.
She is highly motivated to succeed in her cycling with clear goals, is one very smart cookie, is highly technical in her work and IMO, would benefit from the instantaneous measurement of power and energy during her rides for pacing and post mortem analysis and keeping track of training load. But PMs and electronics are not for everyone. YMMV.
Just learning here. Thanks.
07-29-14, 10:31 AM
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...we both know that you have used your "system" to wrap Woooshiepants around your virtual little finger. And I am safe hiding behind you. #waffles_rule
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07-29-14, 10:33 AM
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07-29-14, 10:36 AM
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Not at all knocking PMs, just wondering if there are necessary on every bike in the stable. Your post suggests that one really into it keeps a running total of power expenditure over time. That would necessitate having the PM on every bike.
Just learning here. Thanks.
Just learning here. Thanks.
I personally think that a PM is a great tool for pacing during training and racing, and probably most importantly as a tool to show you that you're not always working as hard as you think you are.
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07-29-14, 10:48 AM
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Most PMs hop fairly easily from one bike to another. Moving my PowerTap between my road and tri bikes is a matter of switching the rear wheel. Sure, it's convenient to have one on every bike to save you those 2-10 minutes, but that gets to be a really expensive convenience.
I personally think that a PM is a great tool for pacing during training and racing, and probably most importantly as a tool to show you that you're not always working as hard as you think you are.
I personally think that a PM is a great tool for pacing during training and racing, and probably most importantly as a tool to show you that you're not always working as hard as you think you are.
07-29-14, 10:57 AM
#5594
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Swapping my Quarg from bike to bike is considerably less work than swapping a cassette. The two BB30/PF30 bikes have the cadence magnet installed, and there is no other set-up needed.
07-29-14, 11:02 AM
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fixed for accuracy.
07-29-14, 11:03 AM
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I eat carbide.
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Yup - he emailed me a couple of weeks ago about it.
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07-29-14, 11:06 AM
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07-29-14, 11:18 AM
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...just to revisit briefly my expose in the recent cabron fiber dustup thread, in which I completely blew the lid off
the conspiracy to keep the origin of these bikes secret, and in an internet journalistic tour de force revealed their
manufacturing center as a space within the hollow earth, populated by a race of dark dwarves:
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the conspiracy to keep the origin of these bikes secret, and in an internet journalistic tour de force revealed their
manufacturing center as a space within the hollow earth, populated by a race of dark dwarves:
Two new mysterious craters emerge in Siberia, deepening giant hole saga - The Washington Post
“I flew by helicopter to inspect this funnel on July 19,” local lawmaker Mikhail Lapsui told the Siberian Times, saying it looks much like the original crater, only smaller, with a small ice lake at its base. “There is also ground outside, as if it was thrown as a result of an underground explosion.”
“I flew by helicopter to inspect this funnel on July 19,” local lawmaker Mikhail Lapsui told the Siberian Times, saying it looks much like the original crater, only smaller, with a small ice lake at its base. “There is also ground outside, as if it was thrown as a result of an underground explosion.”
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07-29-14, 11:23 AM
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...just to revisit briefly my expose in the recent cabron fiber dustup thread, in which I completely blew the lid off
the conspiracy to keep the origin of these bikes secret, and in an internet journalistic tour de force revealed their
manufacturing center as a space within the hollow earth, populated by a race of dark dwarves:
.................................
the conspiracy to keep the origin of these bikes secret, and in an internet journalistic tour de force revealed their
manufacturing center as a space within the hollow earth, populated by a race of dark dwarves:
.................................
07-29-14, 11:24 AM
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