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Old 03-11-20, 12:23 PM
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9 Speed sub-compact

Hi, everyone! I’m thinking of buying a 46-30 sub-compact crankset for my R3000 sora equipped road bike, for climbing steep hills. I cannot find any 9 speed specific cranks that are compatible. Any thoughts about finding one or 10/11 speed compatibility? I’m running 11-30 cassette, but I’ll swap it for 11-34 or 12-36.
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Can you buy 46 and 30 rings only that will fit your current crank?
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No, because the sora crank is 110bcd and the smallest chainring is 33T, so not really much lower gearing.
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I have both of these (on different bikes) in the 46/30 version with 165mm cranks. One on a light weight touring bike and the other on my wife’s bike.

Grand Cru from Velo Orange

and if you have cash to flash

Rene Herse (Compass)

I believe I’m using a 110mm Shimano BB for each with 10sp Campy.
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Originally Posted by popula
Hi, everyone! I’m thinking of buying a 46-30 sub-compact crankset for my R3000 sora equipped road bike, for climbing steep hills. I cannot find any 9 speed specific cranks that are compatible. Any thoughts about finding one or 10/11 speed compatibility? I’m running 11-30 cassette, but I’ll swap it for 11-34 or 12-36.
Crankset "speeds" don't need to match the cassette and chain exactly. I wouldn't run a 5-speed chain on an 11-speed crankset, or an 11-speed chain on a 5-speed crankset, though.
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Originally Posted by popula
Hi, everyone! I’m thinking of buying a 46-30 sub-compact crankset for my R3000 sora equipped road bike, for climbing steep hills. I cannot find any 9 speed specific cranks that are compatible. Any thoughts about finding one or 10/11 speed compatibility? I’m running 11-30 cassette, but I’ll swap it for 11-34 or 12-36.
Wheels Manufacturing, LeTour, and Origin 8 all make 0.5mm chainring shims so you can avoid rub pairing a 10 speed crank with a wider 9 speed chain.
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Ten and eleven-speed chain rings should run a 9-speed chain without problems. Also i found this: https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/product/component/alivio-m4000/FC-MT210-2.html

SHIMANO HYPERDRIVE MTB Crankset 2x9-speed
FC-MT210-2_46-30T_C6_1_750_750

ALIVIO_M4000_m
FC-MT210-2
SHIMANO - HYPERDRIVE - MTB Crankset - 2x9-speed

The SHIMANO FC-MT210-2 crank is designed for 2x9 speed MTB drivetrains. With HYPERDRIVE technology it provides smooth and precise shifting.

Precise and reliable shifting
SG-X chainrings
HYPERDRIVE
Upper series image
Anodized crank
With or without chain guard (46-30T)
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Thanks for the research and replies. The sora crank has chainline of 43.5mm, will the front derailleur be able to handle 48.8mm chainline?
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Absolute Black makes oval 110mm chainrings in 46/30. I have them on my shimano 105 cranks. They are super pricey though and at this time if I were to do it I'd just get a set of shimano GRX cranks and a new FD. I doubt 9 speed cassette/chain would be problem but I've never ran it.
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I've been using an FSA tempo 46/30 crank on my winter bike and it's been solid with 9 speed stuff. I picked it up at a local co-op, apparently a take-off, they had a few sets. FSA's webstore but they are square taper. They make other options but I don't think any of them work with a shimano BB. I would be tempted to try some of the CNC 46/30 rings available on ebay but they are almost the same cost as a basic square taper crankset.
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I’ve used older Ultra triples as a staring point then removed the large ring and replaced the middle ring with a 46 tooth, giving me a 46-30 subcompact double.
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I run a Shimano GRX 10-speed 46/30 crank with Sora 9-speed STI, derailleur, and cassette on my Salsa Journeyman and it performs flawlessly. A couple things to remember: Be sure to match your chain to the crank speed you choose - in my case i used a 10-speed chain to work with the 10-speed crankset. Also, you will might need to swap out your front derailleur (as i did), especially if you go with GRX cranks, as the chainline gets pushed out a bit, and the GRX front derailleur is designed to compensate for this.
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